1 00:00:06,150 --> 00:00:03,190 okay kevin for the grand prize of one 2 00:00:08,230 --> 00:00:06,160 million dollars what color is the white 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,240 house um 4 00:00:13,589 --> 00:00:10,800 i know this i know this i know this 5 00:00:15,190 --> 00:00:13,599 um five seconds oh 6 00:00:17,349 --> 00:00:15,200 switching to geico could save you a 7 00:00:18,390 --> 00:00:17,359 bunch of money on car insurance 8 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:18,400 okay 9 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:20,080 judges 10 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:22,080 that's true kevin they'll allow it 11 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:25,600 congratulations you're a winner 12 00:00:48,870 --> 00:00:28,000 geico because saving 15 or more on car 13 00:01:17,030 --> 00:00:54,070 [Music] 14 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:18,950 welcome back to paranormal now i'm your 15 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:22,159 host alan b smith and tonight we have 16 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:24,000 something a little bit different for you 17 00:01:27,429 --> 00:01:25,600 uh normally yes we're talking about 18 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:27,439 aliens and ghosts and the paranormal in 19 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,600 general um but we do a little bit of 20 00:01:34,230 --> 00:01:31,759 everything and tonight we're doing star 21 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,240 wars particularly the history of the 22 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:36,640 jedi as our focus but it's open game 23 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:38,479 we've got three great grass guests i'm 24 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:41,200 gonna introduce them in just a moment 25 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:43,920 but before i do that i'm going to play 26 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:46,900 this for you 27 00:02:03,810 --> 00:01:53,890 [Applause] 28 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:06,630 [Music] 29 00:02:19,650 --> 00:02:18,640 just 30 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,660 breathe 31 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:22,000 [Music] 32 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:23,840 now 33 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:32,000 what do you see 34 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:34,879 [Music] 35 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,390 the darkness 36 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,880 is so much bigger 37 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:13,750 [Music] 38 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:25,670 it's time for the jedi 39 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:51,190 and that was the trailer for the last 40 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:52,239 jedi 41 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:54,879 um and every time i listen to that on my 42 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:57,680 headset that gives me goosebumps i swear 43 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:00,400 because they listening to that amazing 44 00:04:04,390 --> 00:04:02,959 oh my yeah it's it's one of the best one 45 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,400 of the best experiences i've had as far 46 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:06,640 as trailers go seriously hands down um 47 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:10,640 so before um we get um 48 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:12,560 get too excited let me introduce the the 49 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:14,560 guests that i have on tonight which i i 50 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,479 just realized um were all actors so that 51 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:20,160 was totally not 52 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:23,199 my intention but here we are so 53 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,560 it's true true story i know a bunch of 54 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:26,240 actors hang out together 55 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:28,880 who knows what's gonna happen so 56 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:30,639 um i'm welcoming on to the show i've got 57 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,360 camille bettina atkinson i've got uh 58 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:35,680 drew gregory and i have mac barnes mack 59 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:38,160 barnes has actually been on epic voyages 60 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:39,919 radio the other program that i do on the 61 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:43,199 inception radio network um and he is an 62 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:45,280 encyclopedia of 63 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:48,240 star wars um so let's start with um 64 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:49,360 camille you want to just tell us a 65 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:50,960 little bit about yourself 66 00:04:53,110 --> 00:04:51,840 yeah 67 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:53,120 um 68 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:56,160 i'm an irrepressible performer type i've 69 00:04:59,430 --> 00:04:57,199 been 70 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,440 uh 71 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:01,680 i've been all over the place mainly the 72 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,479 french quarter in new york um working 73 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:06,400 and performing i grew up in new orleans 74 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,240 and i've been in new york city for 22 75 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,720 years i did the things that you do when 76 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:12,720 you're a performer the voice overs the 77 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:15,360 tap dancing and everything in between 78 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:17,440 um and um 79 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:19,759 the first time i saw star wars i was 18 80 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:21,919 months old 81 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,039 my mom said it was fine until you wanted 82 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:27,199 me to sit through it a second time 83 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:29,280 because i had to hold the seat down so 84 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:32,320 you wouldn't get flopped up into it 85 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:34,639 so 86 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:36,960 that's how my obsession with star wars 87 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:40,080 got started i was still in diapers 88 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:43,759 okay cool and um andrew uh drew gregory 89 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:46,160 as as you are better known uh tell us a 90 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:47,600 little bit about yourself i have a lot 91 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,919 of names i have a lot of names alan you 92 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:51,759 do thanks for having me on i appreciate 93 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:53,280 it 94 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:54,800 yeah absolutely thanks man so yeah tell 95 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:56,960 us a little about yourself 96 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:01,670 alan and i have known each other quite 97 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,440 some time 98 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:05,199 we used to mess around back at the tasha 99 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,230 and uh anyway so andrew and i yeah we 100 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:16,800 we've met we go way back we go way back 101 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:18,560 become friends many a year in the new 102 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:21,360 york city exactly um andrew is also 103 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:24,400 a fast friend of the star wars franchise 104 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:26,160 um 105 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:27,600 maybe we've been around me my entire 106 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:28,720 life 107 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:30,240 yeah maybe we won't talk too much about 108 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:31,520 episodes one two and three but i think 109 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:33,759 we kind of have to some of us are okay 110 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:35,840 with it some of us um were not cool with 111 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,360 those first three i know i'm pretty sure 112 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,000 mac was um so mac why don't you tell us 113 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:42,479 about yourself 114 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,280 uh hey everybody um it's great to be on 115 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,440 this show as alan already said i've been 116 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,280 on his show before and we've always had 117 00:06:53,909 --> 00:06:51,520 a great time um 118 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:53,919 i know a good bit about star wars i 119 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,280 think it's a little much to call me an 120 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,440 encyclopedia though but i do 121 00:07:02,710 --> 00:06:59,520 pay attention to all mediums in which 122 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:02,720 star wars can be um learned i collect 123 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:05,680 all the comic books from the 124 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:08,800 um now canonized version from what 125 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:12,080 happened in april 2014 126 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,520 all the way to the current day i have 127 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:15,120 every canon comic book i have all the 128 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:17,680 movies watched them each probably 129 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,160 50 times each including rogue one even 130 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:22,240 though it's been out less than a year 131 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:23,440 um 132 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:25,840 and pretty much i just pay attention to 133 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:28,479 everything star wars every day the first 134 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,160 one of the first things i do after i 135 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:33,039 brush my teeth is uh click type in star 136 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:35,199 wars on google and then just hit the 137 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:36,800 news tab just to see if anything's 138 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,830 yeah and yeah 139 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,520 was there anything in particular that 140 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:45,599 caught your eye 141 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:48,000 um i just i think i thought it was 142 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:51,520 pretty funny that uh i caught um the 143 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:54,000 behind the scenes video that uh star 144 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:54,879 wars 145 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:56,800 uh posted on their youtube channel i 146 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,919 called it before um like i have my 147 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:02,000 notifications or like the little bell on 148 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:04,400 youtube set for star wars just in case 149 00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:05,680 anything they post i get the 150 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:08,639 notification and i actually saw 151 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,560 on there that the video was posted 152 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:12,319 before the bell even gave me the 153 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:14,639 notification so i saw like what i'm 154 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:15,919 thinking is probably before the 155 00:08:19,029 --> 00:08:17,599 notification was sent out which means i 156 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,039 was probably one of the first people to 157 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:21,199 see it that's it you probably just typed 158 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:21,840 in 159 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:23,280 yeah yeah i mean it's like you typed it 160 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:24,639 in right 161 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:31,189 yeah so i'm sorry alan did you did you 162 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:32,959 say that mac 163 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:35,360 actually he he enjoys the uh 164 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:38,080 prequel trilogy did he did you say that 165 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:56,949 when i saw episode four i was two 166 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:01,760 and it blew my mind okay when i saw 167 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:03,200 episode one 168 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:07,040 i had a four-year-old next to me 169 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:09,920 it was it was the same experience 170 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:12,399 yes it was a little goony yes it was a 171 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:15,920 little put together yes jar jar whatever 172 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:17,279 is actually my favorite character from 173 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:18,959 the prequel he's the only character in 174 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:21,440 all defense he's a jamaican we all know 175 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:23,040 that jar jar is a jamaican and that's 176 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:24,640 what makes it okay 177 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:25,839 but 178 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:28,800 i love the story my favorite thing about 179 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:30,240 this whole thing is that i've been 180 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:32,240 watching this story 181 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:34,560 since i was tiny 182 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:37,920 like watching these characters grow 183 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:38,880 and 184 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:41,360 trying so hard to apply those lessons to 185 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:43,279 my messed up life all of our lives are 186 00:09:48,389 --> 00:09:46,160 messed up we're all fighting a battle 187 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:48,399 you know and so the first few episodes 188 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,839 they were messed up because guess who 189 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:51,839 else was fighting a battle 190 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:54,320 george lucas 191 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,829 don't yeah i 192 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:01,680 i have to agree andrew and andrew i know 193 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:02,800 you probably don't want to hear this but 194 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:05,600 i have been a little more forgiving 195 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:08,399 but not episode two i am sorry i have so 196 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:09,600 many problems with episode two but 197 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:11,920 episode one and episode three 198 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:14,640 um i i kind of i've grown to like again 199 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:16,160 with the exception of jar jar binks but 200 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:17,519 then if i was a kid maybe i would have 201 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:18,399 loved it 202 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:20,640 um yeah sure but i i actually wasn't 203 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,560 there is actually pretty dope man like 204 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:24,800 ja jar in the clone wars he plays a big 205 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:27,120 role he plays a real pivotal role man i 206 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:29,839 love jar jar yep and i love i love three 207 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:32,320 god three huh 208 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,200 three i cannot agree with that at all i 209 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:36,720 love it 210 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:38,160 so mac what about yourself because i 211 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:41,040 know you were you were pretty young when 212 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:42,480 mac you were pretty young when uh one 213 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:44,480 two and three came out right 214 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:49,839 um i was i'm 97 so i'm 19 years of age 215 00:10:54,949 --> 00:10:52,480 almost 20 20 in october 216 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:54,959 so uh i'm definitely the youngest person 217 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:00,949 all right one second yeah i knew i knew 218 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:01,920 that he would definitely be the 219 00:11:05,509 --> 00:11:03,680 strongest with the force i knew this was 220 00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:05,519 after just like the little pregame 221 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:07,279 business now 222 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:09,040 i i put him somewhere he's probably the 223 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:10,959 jedi max definitely the jedi master of 224 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,920 the group 225 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:13,760 you and i are somewhere probably around 226 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:15,760 jedi knight now camille i don't know too 227 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:17,839 much about like where where you're at 228 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,279 with this i think you're at least a 229 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:21,200 padawan learner i have a couple 230 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:22,720 questions for you real quick i just want 231 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,800 to these are these to be interpreted 232 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:25,920 anyway i just want to know how you 233 00:11:30,710 --> 00:11:29,200 answer them tremendous underestimation 234 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:30,720 of my power 235 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:32,959 all right so okay andrew go ahead yeah 236 00:11:39,990 --> 00:11:34,800 ask your questions and we'll see 237 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:41,990 in the original hand in the remake 238 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:44,320 [\h__\h] sorry i said i wasn't going to 239 00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:46,160 swear but that's what it is 240 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:48,000 what's your so what's your final answer 241 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:50,160 i need one answer one answer 242 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:54,470 okay 243 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:56,880 how about you mac what do you say 244 00:12:01,990 --> 00:12:00,160 well see uh this is where i can answer 245 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,000 your answer will explain explains 246 00:12:07,829 --> 00:12:04,720 volumes it's gotta be greater 247 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:07,839 okay yeah okay okay do you know why do 248 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:09,519 you know why i say that 249 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:11,279 so you all say burrito 250 00:12:14,629 --> 00:12:12,160 yeah 251 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,639 but no no but i didn't say just greedo i 252 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:16,560 said in one version han 253 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:18,959 and in the other other version greedo 254 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:21,200 and the reason for that is and this is 255 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:24,240 my theory it is a sound editing error 256 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:30,230 oh yeah 257 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:31,760 oh that's interesting i haven't heard 258 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:34,639 that before yeah 259 00:12:37,829 --> 00:12:36,000 people are like why did he do it i'm 260 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:37,839 like maybe he didn't do it on purpose 261 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:39,839 there's so much he didn't do on purpose 262 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:41,839 that happened okay well i know i know 263 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:43,440 we're doing this for like for a lot of 264 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:45,920 star wars geek fans 265 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:48,320 i think you might be something with this 266 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:50,160 well andrew hold on just hold on one sec 267 00:12:54,069 --> 00:12:51,680 guys um 268 00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:54,079 because even though a lot of star wars 269 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:55,360 geek fans are going to be listening to 270 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:57,680 this um let's just remind ourselves that 271 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:58,880 there are going to be some people who 272 00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:00,560 are not hardcore fans listening to this 273 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:01,600 as well so 274 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:03,760 um this the scene we're talking about 275 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:04,880 andrew you want to set the stage for 276 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:07,920 that yeah so basically 277 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:09,680 in the original movies the original 278 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:11,360 films 279 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:12,639 there's a scene in the mos eisley 280 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:15,519 cantina where han solo is confronted by 281 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,880 greedo 282 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:18,240 it's when he sits he puts him down at 283 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,720 the table and he basically tells him the 284 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,320 same thing the job of the hutt tells him 285 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:24,320 in the later added scene but that's a 286 00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:25,680 whole nother story 287 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:28,160 anyway in the original film which is how 288 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:30,880 i always saw it growing up han solo out 289 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,040 draws greedo and he shoots him first 290 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:35,040 but when the special edition came around 291 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:38,639 in the 90s 97 is it i think mac can i 292 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:41,040 get a call on that i believe so and then 293 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:43,279 i think they redid it again in o4 294 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:44,560 and so when the special edition came 295 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,720 around george added a lot of 296 00:13:51,190 --> 00:13:49,040 a lot of uh special effects and visual 297 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:51,200 effects to enhance some of the scenes 298 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:52,399 like most sizes he looked more like a 299 00:13:55,829 --> 00:13:54,320 city which was kind of cool same thing 300 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:55,839 with like the best been in empire 301 00:14:00,310 --> 00:13:58,160 strikes back but anyway he changed the 302 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:00,320 scene with han and greedo 303 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:02,880 he to make greedo shoot first and like 304 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:04,639 it doesn't even look right on film like 305 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:06,000 you can clearly tell that it's been 306 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,240 edited and it just looks terrible and i 307 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:10,000 feel like it completely changes the 308 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:12,320 whole principle of the character so i've 309 00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:14,320 never been a fan of that 310 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:16,639 i agree okay yeah mac what's your take 311 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:21,990 what on the the bar scene the cantina 312 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:23,519 scene yeah i mean camille made a good 313 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:25,120 point it could have been an editing 314 00:14:28,629 --> 00:14:27,199 problem because andrew even 315 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,639 yeah i mean andrew said it looked it 316 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:30,720 looked sloppy so it does make me wonder 317 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:34,959 was was it initially a major mistake 318 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:35,839 um 319 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:37,760 i don't know if it was a mistake 320 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:40,880 i think that um he probably warned it 321 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,959 was like a stick george messed up i 322 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:45,120 think if you get a second go around what 323 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:47,279 he wanted to do was uh 324 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:49,920 he wanted to portray han less of like 325 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:51,760 you know the jerk type even though he 326 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:53,600 was kind of a jerk but he was an 327 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:56,480 anti-hero so he was supposed to stay 328 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:59,040 that way even though i do disagree with 329 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,079 him 330 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,920 redoing it making greedo shoot first i 331 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:04,320 can see why he did it from a 332 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:06,320 um love of the 333 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:09,199 uh original triad of main characters for 334 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:11,279 that perspective because 335 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:12,959 then it makes han solo look like he's 336 00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:15,120 more defending himself but he still does 337 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:17,440 it and i mean they didn't take away the 338 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:19,600 coin flip at the end or the credit flip 339 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,760 if you you know you watch that after he 340 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:23,600 blasts him i mean he still walks over to 341 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:24,959 the bar and flips a coin to the 342 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:27,839 bartender so he's still a badass i mean 343 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:29,360 i mean whether you're the first one to 344 00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:32,480 shoot or not he's still awesome 345 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:34,959 yeah i mean i i like the i like the 346 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,199 original cut better 347 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:39,440 well can i say i have to agree yeah yeah 348 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:40,800 go ahead okay 349 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:43,199 all right so what i was going to say is 350 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,560 that whole scene at the mos eisley 351 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,079 i love that song right you can see that 352 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:50,000 on repeat forever 353 00:15:53,749 --> 00:15:51,759 um 354 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:53,759 that he goes in you know there's 355 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:56,720 swinging doors it's a it's a saloon 356 00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:58,880 right pretty much yeah it's a saloon 357 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:01,600 right so we have this the our american 358 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:03,680 mythology which is the wild west and 359 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,000 we've transported it into space which is 360 00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:08,399 our our fantasy for the future 361 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:09,199 and 362 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,880 they're using 363 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:12,720 uh motifs 364 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:16,399 and gestures and atmosphere to try and 365 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:19,040 invoke something that will familiar with 366 00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:21,040 in the story of the old west 367 00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:23,440 and it's about who shoots first 368 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:25,839 it's about who's the fastest draw 369 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:28,320 and that's not always epic that's not 370 00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:30,880 always ethical in the wild west the 371 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:33,440 heroes from the wild west are the are 372 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,360 the bad guys and i'm a zina fan 373 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,600 i really like seeing people get stabbed 374 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:41,040 in the heart 375 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:42,720 but did you say like xena warrior 376 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:43,759 princess 377 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,800 yes 378 00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,639 can you cannot hear a xena call i'm not 379 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:48,079 the only one 380 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:49,360 not anymore 381 00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:51,920 that's how i met my ex-wife 382 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:53,839 so andrew yeah 383 00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:56,480 he's just like it's the original han 384 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,839 han's dead to rights man like readers 385 00:17:02,310 --> 00:16:59,519 got him dead duress greedo's gonna kill 386 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,320 him so sneakily under the table he 387 00:17:06,789 --> 00:17:04,799 undoes his blaster from his holster and 388 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:06,799 then he blasts greedo under the table it 389 00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:08,880 was very slick it was very sly and i 390 00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:11,199 think it plays out a lot better than the 391 00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:13,039 than what they did in special edition 392 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:14,319 agreed 393 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,360 the only thing 394 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:16,720 i really don't think i really don't 395 00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:19,039 think grito shooting him at first makes 396 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,240 han like 397 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:22,160 more or less of a like a better of a 398 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,240 character a better person i think it was 399 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,919 very silly 400 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:27,360 well i think 401 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:30,960 that most conspiracy theories don't pan 402 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,640 out and the main reason is people are 403 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:37,200 just too stupid to get that kind of 404 00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:39,120 thought process going 405 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,120 we're not i can't even remember to do 406 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:43,520 the dishes before i go to bed 407 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,760 so like i think that somebody was in the 408 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,520 editing room and they're doing this 409 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:49,760 whole reboot and this is a moment and it 410 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,240 gets out it causes a controversy which 411 00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:54,799 creates publicity 412 00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,559 i mean maybe because i think there might 413 00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:59,039 be some credence to that only because 414 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,600 could if you're like some people who 415 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:03,280 criticized the first films and the 416 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:04,799 oversights 417 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:08,480 in the films 418 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:10,160 it's like if there were other storyline 419 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:12,000 oversights why wouldn't there be 420 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:12,640 an 421 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,960 editing oversight um especially because 422 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:16,799 george lucas is one man 423 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,640 you know running in an empire 424 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:21,120 um so i i i yeah i wouldn't he needed to 425 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,360 split the work i'm so glad he sold the 426 00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:25,280 rights it was the best thing for 427 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:26,799 everybody that was a good idea it was a 428 00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:28,799 good idea okay i'm gonna say this one on 429 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:30,320 the topic and then we've gotta move on 430 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:31,840 we'll talk about the the jedi's a little 431 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:34,400 bit more um okay but 432 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:38,400 yeah i i think personally that um like 433 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:40,080 andrew said him being more sly and 434 00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:42,480 pulling the trigger first is not 435 00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:45,440 because i never i never saw it and he's 436 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:47,520 a murderer or he's a bad person 437 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:49,520 i saw as he knew exactly what that guy 438 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,720 was going to do 439 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,400 right before he did it 440 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,400 so he shot first because he knew that 441 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:56,320 guy was going to kill him that's i think 442 00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:58,160 that's just as fair as 443 00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,080 sticking up your gun 444 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:01,919 and in reaction to someone raising their 445 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:02,640 gun 446 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,480 but it's a movie so i think it's fair i 447 00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:06,480 think it works that's true 448 00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:08,799 both of them are true but we know you 449 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,280 and i know and the people 450 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,440 who got onto the film when it was just 451 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,000 that film that was only film we knew han 452 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,240 was a good guy and we saw that and we 453 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,000 knew what happened 454 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:22,160 and you can't take that away from us he 455 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,840 shot first in self-defense you can't 456 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,000 argue about it forever if it's your 457 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:28,160 imagination okay 458 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:30,000 true story true story it was our our 459 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:31,280 experience and then other people had 460 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,400 different experience and that's just the 461 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,480 way it is we can't change other people's 462 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,080 experiences just because we think ours 463 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,559 is better so okay moving on let's talk 464 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,400 about this trailer the last jedi 465 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,000 official trailer i'm going to start 466 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:44,480 let's start with mac um i want to get 467 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,440 like your overall take on what you 468 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:49,919 got out of the trailer 469 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:51,280 um 470 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,400 well i wish 471 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:53,840 i wish we were talking about while we 472 00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:56,160 were watching it um because there's so 473 00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:58,080 many things that you just don't think 474 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,039 about once uh the actual 475 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:03,600 visual aspect of what you're analyzing 476 00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:06,720 is uh over so i mean 477 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,559 just things off the top of my head i 478 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:10,960 think that um 479 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,240 that uh landscape shot where rey is like 480 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:15,840 uh obvi it looks like she's just 481 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,320 swinging the lightsaber but you know 482 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,559 she's got to be training but uh that 483 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,400 looks really cool i'm interested about 484 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,679 that and all the all the dialogue from 485 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,440 luke throughout the entire trailer where 486 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,480 he's asking her what she feels and to 487 00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:32,400 reach out and things like that i can't 488 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:35,840 wait to see him mentor her in the movie 489 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,280 because you know that's going to happen 490 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,120 plenty 491 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,760 so if any of you guys 492 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,919 if yeah if any of you guys want to watch 493 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,360 it while we're talking that's fine just 494 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,520 turn the volume down on on the youtube 495 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,080 and then we're we're good um 496 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:52,240 so okay i think that's a good start um 497 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:54,080 camille what do you think 498 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,520 oh my god 499 00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:57,280 the way that these last 500 00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:59,679 couple films have rolled out has just 501 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,799 been 502 00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:03,120 so amazing 503 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:05,919 and this one is not like oh my god it's 504 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,400 not disappointing me on any level 505 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:10,960 i love where this this story has gone 506 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:13,600 and the visuals just like you said the 507 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:16,159 visuals are just so like you could eat 508 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,919 them they're like steak they're so good 509 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,679 yeah yeah okay and that's the cinnamon 510 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:22,480 toast 511 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:27,520 i like steak i like steak a lot oh baby 512 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,400 is this steak for you drew 513 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,039 oh my goodness yes i definitely consume 514 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,200 star wars more than i do steak on a 515 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,960 yearly basis that is that's healthier 516 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,720 that's definitely healthier for you 517 00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:41,200 it certainly is i don't end up like john 518 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,080 wayne 519 00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:43,679 you don't know how that ended what 520 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,909 all right i mean look i know we're all 521 00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,960 cool all right 522 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:52,080 the trailer is trying to watch the 523 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,440 languages guys 524 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:56,159 i apologize i'm trying i i did stop if 525 00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,360 you play it back you'll hear that i 526 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:59,200 stopped at midway i apologize for all 527 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,960 the kids at home i know this is a family 528 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,240 show 529 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:03,919 but yeah the trailer is great uh i 530 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,480 really think that uh 531 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,559 clearly something bad's gonna go down 532 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:10,000 like they're they're teasing it they're 533 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,360 teasing it they're really they're really 534 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:12,400 teasing us 535 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,960 and yeah i feel i feel that too the you 536 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,480 know they're following the same formula 537 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,799 as the first the first uh or the 538 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:20,640 original the holy trilogy you know the 539 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,360 following.org that's the best yeah so 540 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,960 that was my only grew up with the first 541 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,760 one like er i'm sorry seven 542 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,360 like uh the fourth what is it the fourth 543 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,200 what is it 544 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,919 no no yeah the focus wiggins thank you 545 00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,520 it was too close to a new hope a new 546 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,280 hope is my favorite and i love it i 547 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,200 understand it's kind of like a 548 00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,360 remake in sorts but it was just if i 549 00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:43,679 followed us too closely it followed a 550 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,799 little too close but as we know 551 00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,480 okay so this i'm gonna bring up 552 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,159 something really quickly so when i was 553 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:52,320 younger i read i read nintendo power 554 00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,840 because that's how cool of the kid i was 555 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,679 oh my god i remember that 556 00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,760 yeah it was a magazine that was amazing 557 00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:58,880 and uh 558 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,919 when 559 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,440 they made there was a series of star 560 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,799 wars games that came out for super 561 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,640 nintendo that were really awesome they 562 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,320 were really really good and they came 563 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,400 out like every two years kind of the way 564 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,480 the films did maybe maybe it was a 565 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,159 little bit sooner maybe it was a year i 566 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,720 don't recall but anyway there was a 567 00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,960 promo for return to the jedi the game 568 00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,799 for on super nintendo and i'll never 569 00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,559 forget the promo it said it said 570 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,080 something like this it's not an exact 571 00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,480 quote but it says something like 572 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,559 the first time we won 573 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,120 the second time they won 574 00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:32,000 this time there won't be a next time 575 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:33,280 and i always thought that was like 576 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,960 really awesome like that pretty much 577 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,120 sums up the holy trilogy 578 00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:39,360 it's it sums it up very well 579 00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:41,039 i feel that seven eight and nine are 580 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,480 going to follow suit 581 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,320 we know empire strikes back like a lot 582 00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,400 you know the empire wins man like things 583 00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:49,200 go down that's i feel the last is going 584 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,480 to be the same way 585 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,880 it's such a good story 586 00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,200 and they are very similar 587 00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,240 but i i thought of something when i was 588 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,159 watching the trailer 589 00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,760 and um 590 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,840 i saw the wonder woman movie and i liked 591 00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,960 it very much and this is not a 592 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,880 discussion of the wonder woman movie i 593 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:08,799 hope but 594 00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:11,360 i still haven't seen it reserve judgment 595 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,240 yes 596 00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:13,679 the 597 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:17,679 whole promo that whole trailer 598 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,080 summed up the entire film of wonder 599 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,750 in two minutes and 38 seconds 600 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,080 it was the whole film pretty much it was 601 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,679 amazing 602 00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,679 so you don't need to see wonder woman 603 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,679 you saw this trailer 604 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:35,279 no it's no it's really it's really funny 605 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:36,400 you said that 606 00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:37,600 because 607 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:39,919 and i know it's not totally true 608 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:40,799 but 609 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:43,200 after watching this trailer 610 00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,960 this is one of my favorite 611 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,559 it's not my favorite star wars trailer 612 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,840 so far 613 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,200 i almost don't want the movie to come 614 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,720 out because i'm afraid it won't be as 615 00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,240 good as a trailer 616 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,640 because this thing gave me goosebumps up 617 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:56,880 and down man like and and when i put 618 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:59,360 when i played on my my good headphones 619 00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,400 it it 620 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:02,000 john williams just blows me away with 621 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:03,200 his music 622 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:04,480 um 623 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,029 well the score is 624 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:13,279 yes it definitely has to be yeah don't i 625 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,320 don't agree i don't agree with his 626 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,880 extracurriculars i apologize to anyone 627 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,600 that he may have hurt 628 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,600 oh i i don't know about the wait wait 629 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,000 okay that what are the extra curriculars 630 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,520 that's a whole other show 631 00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,880 anyway uh 632 00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,159 okay well just to go along with the 633 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,159 trailer can we discuss on the like the 634 00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,000 behind the scenes that they came out 635 00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:34,000 this recently id23 just to go along with 636 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,200 the trailer 637 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,760 there's a couple of quotes that 638 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:39,120 well he said that there's gonna be 639 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,240 something shocking and it's very real 640 00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,240 and they talk about ryan johnson the 641 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:46,000 director and it's going to be very 642 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,520 shocking there's something very shocking 643 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:49,120 going to happen they promise something 644 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:50,480 very shocking 645 00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,720 now the way i understand it when empire 646 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:54,000 strikes back 647 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,840 came out you know back in 1880 1980 648 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,640 uh when that big reveal that 649 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:02,320 that when vader tells luke that he's his 650 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:03,360 father 651 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,960 that was 652 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,440 you know that's part of cinema history 653 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,880 and it's on many lists in like one of 654 00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,279 the top five moments in cinema history 655 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,880 so many people were not expecting that 656 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,480 and it completely 657 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,880 captivated audiences i have a feeling 658 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:18,880 we're going to see something of that 659 00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:22,880 magnitude go down in last jedi 660 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,230 yeah the last jedi 661 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,240 yeah but i mean i guess some people 662 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,039 speculated luke has had a child 663 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:35,200 and maybe raised that child is that 664 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,480 possible 665 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,640 uh yeah 666 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,080 yeah i'm kind of on the i kind of think 667 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,440 that rey or luke are going to go bad i 668 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,400 have a feeling that one of them is going 669 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,159 to either switch 670 00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,480 switch over to the dark side or 671 00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:50,000 oh my god 672 00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,789 well i know i know mark hamill is 673 00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:00,400 watching an interview 674 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:03,440 i'm a dark saber person i'm sorry sorry 675 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,950 what's your favorite who what jedi has 676 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:13,360 the favorite lightsaber like what design 677 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,480 what design lightsaber is your favorite 678 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:18,640 do you have one 679 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:26,870 i mean the classic green or blue seem 680 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,679 like yours your standard like 681 00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:32,240 your standard 34. you know what i mean 682 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,640 looks really reliable but i mean are 683 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,919 there any like jedi like if they all 684 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:37,440 have their own design is there anyone 685 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,320 that like 686 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:40,159 you thought was cooler than the others i 687 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:41,520 always thought darth maul's was pretty 688 00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,320 bad 689 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,559 yes i know i've tried the darth maul 690 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,559 lightsaber i'm five foot tall so it 691 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,559 really doesn't work for me 692 00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,440 i see that makes sense yeah 693 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:53,200 i did try 694 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:54,320 well 695 00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,679 hear 696 00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:59,039 um what you have to think what your 697 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,039 theory is about luke and what this big 698 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:03,360 surprise might be 699 00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,240 me 700 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,840 oh man 701 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,840 something shocking and real 702 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:09,919 i have like an intense 703 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:12,159 theory that is no joke like three 704 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,870 hold on mack let's we'll do that when we 705 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,640 come back from the break i have a minute 706 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,720 can you describe to me your 707 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:28,640 favorite lightsaber and why before we 708 00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,360 come back my favorite lightsaber is 709 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,919 honestly probably mace windu's not not 710 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,760 for the color how most people would 711 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,840 think so the route the rounded handle i 712 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,120 like the circular rounds like the 713 00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,960 multiples it's pretty dope i agree 714 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,120 that is a good answer that's a good 715 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,000 answer mac that's good 716 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:48,080 is that is that what it is 717 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,200 that's cool 718 00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,679 mac finish 719 00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,279 it's cool that it's purple and it's cool 720 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,120 that it's circular and it's got a good 721 00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,200 grip and like just the symmetry of the 722 00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,120 lightsaber but really the coolest part 723 00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,640 to me is that one thing that darth 724 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,159 sidious and mace windu's lightsabers 725 00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,480 have in common is that uh the lightsaber 726 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:07,039 is finished with an uh an element called 727 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,080 electrum and electrum is uh for senior 728 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,200 members of the jedi council only and it 729 00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,600 has like um lightsabers can't cut 730 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,919 through it so his lightsaber can't be 731 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:19,600 cut through like we've seen many 732 00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,520 lightsabers 733 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,679 throughout 734 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,240 it can't be called what do you 735 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,960 no like if you take another lightsaber 736 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:30,799 and try to cut through the hilt of his 737 00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:33,440 blade or if through his lightsaber you 738 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,600 can't cut through it because electrum is 739 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,360 uh one of the few elements in the star 740 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,840 wars world that is immune to lightsaber 741 00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:41,679 class you should talk about the handle 742 00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,399 yeah 743 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,760 oh that's awesome i didn't know that 744 00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,440 yeah you're definitely the jedi man's 745 00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:48,080 master mac for sure 746 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,279 all right cool well let's hold it there 747 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,279 so when we come back after this first 748 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,840 very short break um we are going to dive 749 00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,919 in deep and we will try not to run 750 00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,919 astray we'll dive in deep into 751 00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:00,159 um what is going on 752 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,559 with luke skywalker and his new 753 00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:06,880 outlook on the force 754 00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:09,279 and what will this groundbreaking news 755 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:10,159 be 756 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,559 this is alan b smith for paranormal now 757 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:16,320 on the inception radio network stay 758 00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,549 you didn't forget what's coming up 759 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,559 tonight did you hi inception radio 760 00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,799 network listeners this is amanda never 761 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:38,159 miss that interview you were looking 762 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:39,760 forward to or the show on your favorite 763 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,520 topic follow irn on twitter i underscore 764 00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,919 our underscore n and get reminders about 765 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,480 the evening's live shows as well as fun 766 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,320 you're listening to love advice 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00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:29,990 hello inception radio network listeners 783 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,399 this is amanda remember you can take 784 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,799 your inception radio shows on the go 785 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,480 just download the inception radio 786 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,440 network app for your iphone ipad or 787 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:41,600 android smartphones and access 788 00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,080 live shows past shows guest lineups and 789 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,640 much more just visit the itunes store or 790 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:48,480 the google play marketplace and download 791 00:33:02,070 --> 00:31:51,930 it today for free 792 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:03,830 and welcome back to paranormal now i'm 793 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:06,640 alan b smith your host on the inception 794 00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,760 radio network um while this is a podcast 795 00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,519 we are part of a live stream every 796 00:33:15,909 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--> 00:33:47,919 stream shoutcast win amp win media 811 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:49,519 player and quicktime and of course on 812 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:52,880 roku okay so we left it off with 813 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:56,080 our speculations of luke skywalker and 814 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,360 some 815 00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:00,080 amazing turn or catastrophic 816 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,799 um turn of event in the storyline so mac 817 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,159 i want to get your 818 00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,399 point of view on what you suspect based 819 00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:07,919 on this trailer what you think is going 820 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,440 to happen to luke skywalker 821 00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:13,119 honestly i think it's going to be 822 00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:15,359 something that's less surprising about 823 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:16,639 the actual 824 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,040 story and the progression of the 825 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:21,839 character development and the way um 826 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,919 we find out about rey's parenting i 827 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,520 think it's gonna be more like something 828 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,720 like either 829 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,960 luke has turned to the dark side or luke 830 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:30,720 is like sick and he's like on the verge 831 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:32,560 of death 832 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,629 oh i like that theory 833 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,839 you think you might have turned the dark 834 00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,679 side but i i do i do wonder because in 835 00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:42,879 the trailer 836 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,119 we see that shot of 837 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,440 you know something like a papyrus or an 838 00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:48,399 old 839 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:49,359 um 840 00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:50,320 script 841 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,639 from like an ancient jedi library we 842 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:54,320 would assume 843 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,119 um 844 00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,560 yeah and so that makes me think that 845 00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:58,880 maybe luke was actually spending more 846 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:00,640 time digging into the past and learning 847 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:03,040 things that he just that even yoda 848 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:05,680 didn't pass on to him 849 00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:08,079 he's seen some things lucas seen some 850 00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,599 things 851 00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,440 i mean do do you think that that's where 852 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,160 his backstory was that he was scouring 853 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,079 um the galaxy to find out as much as he 854 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,520 can about the 855 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,960 the jedi 856 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,880 well i know for a fact it was because 857 00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,560 like i said before i collect all the 858 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,720 comic books and um 859 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,280 i can't tell you exactly which issue or 860 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,240 even which uh book because i have 861 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,240 probably over a hundred since it's okay 862 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,400 we believe you we believe you 863 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:37,520 but um he has revisited the original 864 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,040 jedi temple um a few times and went into 865 00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,320 like secret like safes and uh places 866 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:46,240 that not even darth sidious knew about 867 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,280 when he uh changed the jedi temple over 868 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,320 to 869 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:52,960 like his main coruscant office 870 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,119 um so he's taken a few books and like 871 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,200 relics and things like that to uh 872 00:36:03,670 --> 00:35:58,560 further his 873 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,990 well i i guess when i saw the symbol on 874 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,480 there that um well actually the symbol 875 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,480 reminded me of 876 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,839 the original star wars poster with luke 877 00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,200 when he has his arms up and the 878 00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,599 lightsaber yeah 879 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:19,680 it does it totally does doesn't it yeah 880 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,040 yeah yeah 881 00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,800 good looks on that 882 00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,119 so and i and i so i was reading about 883 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:27,599 the the history of the jedi and before 884 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,960 there was the jedi there was the jedi 885 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,920 order 886 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:32,960 do you guys know anything about these 887 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:41,349 on an island called jahab or something 888 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:44,640 like that sorry um yeah 889 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:48,400 g what is it j e d a h 890 00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:50,640 are these their favorite culture there 891 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,190 right and this was on python but mac you 892 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:03,040 know you know that that the origins 893 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,599 became before that correct 894 00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,640 yes 895 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,320 okay can you tell us about the origins 896 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,160 the very beginning before the even the 897 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:13,440 jedi order existed 898 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:14,560 um 899 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:18,240 well if i'm correct which i believe i am 900 00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,280 there would be 901 00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:20,960 let him finish drew let him finish up 902 00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:23,119 and then you'll jump in and and and take 903 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,800 over no i was just reinforcing i have 904 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:26,160 nothing to say i was just agreeing that 905 00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,440 he's correct 906 00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:29,119 okay cool 907 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,560 uh i believe there were um three known 908 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,760 um 909 00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:35,119 they didn't used to call it the light 910 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,400 side and the dark side 911 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,400 and like gray jedi i guess has been 912 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,079 something that people have played around 913 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:42,960 with in legends but that is not that 914 00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,520 term and the actual role of that even 915 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,760 though we've seen that ahsoka's 916 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,599 she claims that she's not a jedi anymore 917 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,280 but obviously she's not dark side so 918 00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,760 many people have called her a gray jedi 919 00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,599 they didn't used to be called that they 920 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,920 used to be called back during the jedi 921 00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,160 order they used to be called ashla 922 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,720 stood for light bogen which stood for 923 00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:05,520 dark and bendu was the balance 924 00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:06,720 of the both 925 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,079 and uh if you watch star wars rebels um 926 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,320 this past season three which by the way 927 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,240 i'm super pumped up for season four in 928 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,119 the fall but during season three when it 929 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,200 ended this uh earlier this spring 930 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,680 somewhere around march or april a few of 931 00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:23,520 the episodes have this one character 932 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:26,880 called the vindu and he actually is the 933 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,520 balance between the larkin uh the the 934 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:31,040 light and the dark 935 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,960 and uh he mentors uh kanan jairus and 936 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,520 helps kanan jairus to kind of understand 937 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,160 what uh 938 00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,240 ezra ezra bridger is going through 939 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,000 because 940 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,760 darth maul tried to 941 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,359 been learning from a sith holocron and 942 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:48,880 everything i'm not going to go too much 943 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,839 into that because i don't want to ruin 944 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:50,880 it for anyone who hasn't watched the 945 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,760 show 946 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,520 okay so 947 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:55,200 you've been to i don't know if andrea if 948 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,760 you want to tag in here um was was that 949 00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,400 wasn't there a race before the jedi and 950 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,800 they taught um 951 00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,800 all these new people on 952 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,480 about the force 953 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:09,119 was there like a super ancient race 954 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:12,000 uh i believe so but 955 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:16,160 i i've been pretty i think um they're 956 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,680 they were pilgrims i believe or 957 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,720 something like that from uh foyor which 958 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,200 i'm not completely sure what uh that is 959 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,880 because that was 960 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:27,760 way that was probably 961 00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:30,880 at least at least 10 000 years before 962 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,040 the jedi order so i think uh the foyor 963 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,640 is the name of the 964 00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:38,000 uh race 965 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:42,079 and uh there were eight uh pyramid ships 966 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:44,000 or ships that look like pyramids 967 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:46,720 scattered throughout the galaxy um 968 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,599 that uh had different planets like kind 969 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:52,000 of connected to them through the force 970 00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:53,200 and uh 971 00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:54,480 the 972 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,960 planets and see when uh sentient life 973 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:05,680 was created or i always mess up that 974 00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:21,589 that's pretty good pawn 975 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:25,829 yeah 976 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,480 they uh they just kind of start like 977 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:30,000 they kind of 978 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,440 has anyone here watch the show naruto 979 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:34,560 no 980 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,520 yeah 981 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:37,520 about the kid that goes to school to be 982 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,640 a ninja 983 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:40,880 yeah yeah he's from the leap village 984 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,680 yeah but i know i know of it yeah before 985 00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:44,880 all that 986 00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,119 beings that came from 987 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:51,839 uh another world and basically 988 00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,079 instilled this energy which in that show 989 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,319 they call chakra and star wars you can 990 00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:57,680 refer to it as the same thing as the 991 00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,720 force 992 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,200 but they instilled it in the in the 993 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,599 beings on those worlds and basically 994 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,119 taught them how to 995 00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:07,680 use the ability and access the ability 996 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,079 and the foyer were 997 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,960 people from an even farther depths of 998 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:15,040 the galaxy and came to the star wars 999 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,560 galaxy to 1000 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:19,200 eight individual planets and um 1001 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,520 instilled the force and uh 1002 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:24,319 the ways to use the force and 1003 00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,520 uh showing how it can um 1004 00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,839 make your everyday life more peaceful 1005 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,359 and help you 1006 00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:34,160 deal with uh hard times in your anger 1007 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,599 and things like that 1008 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,319 and uh those those planets that got to 1009 00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,240 use the force first 1010 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:42,400 um that's why they have such ancient 1011 00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,440 things 1012 00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,839 on the planet like uh kashyyyk has this 1013 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,839 one tree i forgot what the tree is 1014 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,359 called but it's basically like the tree 1015 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,440 of life because where the wookies are 1016 00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:53,359 from yeah 1017 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,119 and that was one of the eight first 1018 00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:57,200 planets that um had four sensitive 1019 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,400 beings or was instilled with or like had 1020 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,720 the force pretty much uh 1021 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,640 breathed into it or 1022 00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:06,000 pumped into it 1023 00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,359 so 1024 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,200 that was one of the kashyyyk was one of 1025 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,920 the first planets that uh had force 1026 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,960 sensitive 1027 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,480 uh beings 1028 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,720 i just love that entire concept you know 1029 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,640 that entire concept and i feel like a 1030 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:20,000 lot of religions 1031 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,440 they you know they kind of 1032 00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,440 are similar in a ways 1033 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,599 too so they didn't they didn't i didn't 1034 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,680 say i feel like i'm 1035 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:29,359 ot 1036 00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,560 8 from scientology now 1037 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:34,240 yeah 1038 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:50,150 no no no offense to myself 1039 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,510 you never know who's listening out there 1040 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:53,040 there's tens of thousands listening to 1041 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,560 us right now 1042 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:56,000 without a doubt so 1043 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,119 so 1044 00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,880 i think this is interesting because this 1045 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,880 really begs the question between the 1046 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:03,119 original trilogy and episodes one two 1047 00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,400 and three 1048 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:06,640 why weren't these planets just 1049 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,150 if you want to train people in the force 1050 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,319 and it's a chemistry 1051 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,760 hold on so 1052 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:21,200 can we can we talk about midi-chlorians 1053 00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,560 for a second 1054 00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:24,000 we're talking about it 1055 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:25,040 i have a feeling that a lot of your 1056 00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,160 viewers aren't going to know what they 1057 00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:28,079 are i keep saying viewers but i mean 1058 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:29,119 listeners 1059 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,480 yeah so okay 1060 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,920 go ahead basically 1061 00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:33,680 middle clause basically if you if you 1062 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:34,880 turn on the tv in the morning and you 1063 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:37,520 watch maury povich and it's like are you 1064 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,040 the father all right midichlorians are 1065 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,800 anakin's father 1066 00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:45,119 and like he was not happy let me tell 1067 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:45,839 you 1068 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:49,839 okay 1069 00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:51,040 technically midichlorians are 1070 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,440 microscopic organisms that help connect 1071 00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,079 the living force to the cosmic force is 1072 00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,800 that is that correct mac that is correct 1073 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,160 okay 1074 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:04,640 i told you i was divorced so this 1075 00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:07,200 terminology is not coming from a healthy 1076 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,309 okay 1077 00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,960 they are and because baby daddy right 1078 00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,760 right 1079 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:17,520 we used to call them 1080 00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:20,720 mag accordions because they were little 1081 00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,829 i see yeah i see but that's 1082 00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:29,119 kind of 1083 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,640 like there's something a little creepy i 1084 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:32,079 heard about it i was like oh what the 1085 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,349 and that's coming from somebody who 1086 00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,200 actually liked the first episode 1087 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,359 right i know about to say like yeah mega 1088 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,359 glorious are like what us you know 1089 00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:47,760 deniers of the uh 1090 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:56,790 it is completely flawed but that doesn't 1091 00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,359 mean i don't enjoy it 1092 00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,640 but i'm like john waters so 1093 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:04,000 you know george was going the religious 1094 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,280 angle there he was definitely going the 1095 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,680 religious angle we like there's no other 1096 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,839 way there's no other explanation and 1097 00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,440 that's fine 1098 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:13,920 it plays i think i saw it as 1099 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,480 a franchise i think we all accept it now 1100 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,480 like back 1101 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,640 i didn't accept it i i i more or less 1102 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:22,800 accept it i accept it more than i accept 1103 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,309 exactly mac what do you what's your 1104 00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,800 what's your opinion on on that on my 1105 00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:34,880 question to you specifically i mean why 1106 00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,400 wouldn't you just put midichlorians um 1107 00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,319 inject them into humans or infest them 1108 00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,440 on a planet or what you know what i mean 1109 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:46,880 um i think because in the very beginning 1110 00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,839 it was less like um 1111 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,440 the uh 1112 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:53,040 the 1113 00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,599 less wanting to just you know basically 1114 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,119 give them a gift 1115 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,920 but wanting to let because if you do 1116 00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,359 something like that 1117 00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,520 like if there was a way to 1118 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,160 give someone a force power say that 1119 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,920 your wife or girlfriend was having a 1120 00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,079 baby and you could give them the ability 1121 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,400 to use the force would it be cooler if 1122 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:18,079 you could just um 1123 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,200 somehow 1124 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,920 like inject it into the dna or to be 1125 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,079 cooler if you could actually teach them 1126 00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,520 how to use the force and they would know 1127 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,079 where they got it from 1128 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,720 i like to inject it personally 1129 00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,880 all right 1130 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,079 well that's like that's the difference 1131 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,760 between somebody who wants to meditate 1132 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,680 or somebody who wants to take mushrooms 1133 00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:38,720 um 1134 00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,349 right but you can take the mushrooms and 1135 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,200 get to a place very fast 1136 00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,680 but you have less control over yourself 1137 00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:50,720 than you do 1138 00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,760 if you're meditating um so and i think 1139 00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:55,839 the meditating is like the slow hard 1140 00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,480 learned process and that if you can get 1141 00:47:03,270 --> 00:46:59,920 to that heightened 1142 00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:03,280 um elevated state of consciousness 1143 00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,160 through 1144 00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:06,880 hard work and discipline and patience 1145 00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:08,079 then i think that yeah you are going to 1146 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:09,680 be more of a master than if you take 1147 00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,640 this well that's how they train the 1148 00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,319 younglings that the younglings have to 1149 00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,560 do a lot of meditation younglings is 1150 00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:16,240 obviously the first rank you know in the 1151 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,359 jedi order 1152 00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,599 when children show signs of being 1153 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,839 attuned to the force or they have a high 1154 00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,480 high midichlorian count you know from 1155 00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,240 there 1156 00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,040 they're taking away from their family 1157 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,040 exactly which is which is which is the 1158 00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,599 right to be fair though so the 1159 00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,119 the reason that they did that was 1160 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:37,280 apparently to keep them away from the 1161 00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,200 dark side of the force which is also a 1162 00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,000 pretty good parallel to you know 1163 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:43,599 you know trying to protect us from the 1164 00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,560 bad things of life 1165 00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:48,720 is so great like it's just so relatable 1166 00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:51,839 on so many levels and i just love it i 1167 00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:54,319 think i think everyone is 1168 00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:55,520 yeah there's so many parallels with 1169 00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,079 buddhism too i mean so 1170 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,760 that's right he was drawing on as well 1171 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,880 yeah 1172 00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:02,800 okay so let's really get let's get back 1173 00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,079 to the history of it so um we know that 1174 00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,359 that people were sort of plucked i guess 1175 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:10,960 mac do you know why people were chosen 1176 00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,200 to to how they were chosen that they 1177 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,839 were the ones to be learning the force 1178 00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:18,160 um i don't actually think that it was 1179 00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,880 any certain uh reason i think it was 1180 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,280 just kind of like like i said the uh 1181 00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:26,079 thorium or the though you're just came 1182 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,440 out of uh 1183 00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,680 just deep space and i think they were 1184 00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,760 probably just the first eight worlds 1185 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,280 that they stumbled upon like they 1186 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,200 probably just had a number in height and 1187 00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,440 in mind there's not an actual 1188 00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,839 reason behind it and what i'm speaking 1189 00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,000 of right now um 1190 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:45,440 i'm pretty sure it like is canon but 1191 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:46,720 they haven't 1192 00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:51,910 comics ever since the only thing that 1193 00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:55,119 we've heard of the jedi order is um a 1194 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,040 few things in the book but nothing that 1195 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,680 actually explains how it came to be 1196 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,440 and um 1197 00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:03,760 from the tv show whenever uh kanan 1198 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,800 jairus is talking with the bendu but he 1199 00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,200 doesn't even refer to it as any he 1200 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,119 doesn't even tell him an origin story of 1201 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,440 what happened so really we're kind of 1202 00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:15,839 still in the dark i've just told you as 1203 00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:18,000 much as i know i know you can probably 1204 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,960 look up the foyer and uh read up on it 1205 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,800 yourself why do you spell that could we 1206 00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:24,400 get a spelling on that 1207 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,349 look at that 1208 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:35,270 so okay so my guess is that that luke is 1209 00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:36,880 doing his research 1210 00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:39,920 and that that he knows all about this 1211 00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,400 ancient history which 1212 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,359 back when um you know 1213 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,440 understanding the dark and the light was 1214 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:49,440 was part of being a jedi i mean didn't 1215 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,400 they send people off of tython to like a 1216 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,480 moon of tython to study specifically 1217 00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:56,160 like the dark side 1218 00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,359 um 1219 00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,359 yes it wasn't it wasn't neither was 1220 00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:01,359 mutually exclusive right 1221 00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,240 no 1222 00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:04,880 in the beginning didn't they teach 1223 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:06,960 not each jedi both but they taught 1224 00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:09,920 someone and some the other because they 1225 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,559 wanted to keep the balance together 1226 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:14,079 because there was like well 1227 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,599 there was a division i can't remember 1228 00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:17,280 the energy and they figured if they had 1229 00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,559 the balance 1230 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,559 that it would be 1231 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,599 what is it 1232 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,520 that there is not a disturbance in the 1233 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:26,400 force right that that it would be 1234 00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,440 calm 1235 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,040 but what they didn't understand was that 1236 00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,960 there was all this radiating dark force 1237 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,599 energy going on too and that pushed the 1238 00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:36,160 balance over if that's i think i think 1239 00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,440 that's it 1240 00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,079 yeah andrew what do you think 1241 00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,880 i think that's absolutely right 1242 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,960 i have nothing further to debate on that 1243 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:47,280 subject 1244 00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,240 so 1245 00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,400 i mean honestly they pretty much covered 1246 00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,680 it all 1247 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,640 so 1248 00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,240 they really 1249 00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:55,520 all right good night everybody that's it 1250 00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:59,119 for paranormal now no i don't know 1251 00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,000 but 1252 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:02,480 now we still have much i mean 1253 00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:03,200 so 1254 00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,559 that's just that's just how it was man 1255 00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,319 that's just how it was back then right 1256 00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:09,040 okay so i'm back 1257 00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,599 a long time ago yeah well pick up on the 1258 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,200 long time ago 1259 00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:14,880 tell us what you think about 1260 00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,359 about back in the day when the jedi were 1261 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,359 learning dark and light can you tell us 1262 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,520 more about that 1263 00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,760 um 1264 00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:26,880 to be honest uh working behind episode 1265 00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:29,440 one i still know a good bit about uh 1266 00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:32,000 behind episode one and i believe let me 1267 00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:33,359 check really quick 1268 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,119 uh yes the time that the tho your were 1269 00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,920 that they came to be uh or came into the 1270 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,920 star wars galaxy was uh thirty six 1271 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,160 thousand four hundred and fifty three 1272 00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:46,880 bby which 1273 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:51,119 i was about to say that before uh bby 1274 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,640 refers to the event in episode four or 1275 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,520 as uh you old heads like to call just a 1276 00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,559 new hope 1277 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:00,000 um 1278 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,270 stands for after the battle of yavin and 1279 00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,160 both of those are pretty much like a d 1280 00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,599 and b c 1281 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,880 pretty much identical pretty much 1282 00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:23,920 identical 1283 00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:26,480 to my my guess is that i i i really 1284 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,599 think that this is what's gonna happen 1285 00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,800 and this is what 1286 00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:30,559 is supposed to be the big 1287 00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:36,710 shocking and real alan 1288 00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,319 because luke actually says in the 1289 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,559 trailer the time of the time of the jedi 1290 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,200 are over so 1291 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,040 i think they're done though i think he's 1292 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,880 going back to the jedi 1293 00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,720 origins i think he's gonna he's going to 1294 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,640 play he's going to live in the dark and 1295 00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,880 the light and you think he's just going 1296 00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:54,880 to throw midichlorians all over that 1297 00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,200 beautiful island 1298 00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,359 yes he's it's a it's a disney owned 1299 00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,599 franchise now so he just needs a wand 1300 00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:03,839 and he'll put something on that place 1301 00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,309 i'm being clean 1302 00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,079 i so 1303 00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,720 i i yeah i do think that that's what's 1304 00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,640 gonna happen that luke is is living on 1305 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,839 both sides 1306 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,119 um 1307 00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:22,240 i think i think that 1308 00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:23,119 i don't know what do you what do you 1309 00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,800 guys think about that 1310 00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:26,480 i think that i think that's awesome i i 1311 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,880 actually really like that theory 1312 00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,640 because i was they okay so we were 1313 00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,760 talking about the trailer we're talking 1314 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,200 about the the behind the scenes and they 1315 00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,559 really try to play it like they show 1316 00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:36,800 carrie fisher a lot and they try to show 1317 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,000 they try to [\h__\h] they kind of try to 1318 00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:40,559 play it like there's gonna be a surprise 1319 00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:41,680 i really don't think they're gonna kill 1320 00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,280 off princess leia i really don't think 1321 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:44,880 they're going to 1322 00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,480 i really don't think that's gonna happen 1323 00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,319 they already said that they're not gonna 1324 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,359 use any um 1325 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,960 maybe she maybe she gets on the ship and 1326 00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,720 that's the last we see ever i don't know 1327 00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,359 but i mean a lot and uh you know i know 1328 00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,520 we kind of chatted briefly beforehand 1329 00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:01,440 like still seeing 1330 00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,040 still seeing clips in this picture is 1331 00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,119 very difficult it's very rough for me oh 1332 00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:07,760 it's horrible 1333 00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,950 yeah i mean that that actually might 1334 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,200 make sense andrew uh drew 1335 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:17,520 sorry man 1336 00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,640 i have a look 1337 00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,480 he said stan yeah 1338 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,319 great white chocolate 1339 00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:24,880 i i call a man i call him andrew but you 1340 00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,680 know he's he's really true um 1341 00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:29,359 so i i think that makes sense i think 1342 00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,280 it's sensitive to the fans in a way 1343 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,040 perhaps instead of 1344 00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,880 you know quote killing her off right 1345 00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:35,839 away 1346 00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,559 maybe you know over for the next episode 1347 00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,960 nine i mean um she's just not present 1348 00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,960 and somewhere down the line she she's 1349 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,200 killed off 1350 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:48,480 i think i it was either an im 1351 00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:52,480 db or variety that that her son and 1352 00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,280 daughter have given permission 1353 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,280 for them to use the film that they 1354 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:00,000 already used the studio says they have 1355 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,200 no interest in digitally reproducing a 1356 00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:05,680 performance of her and that they will 1357 00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:08,559 not be using contemporary footage of 1358 00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,800 carrie and they are also scrambling to 1359 00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,200 try and figure out how to explain her 1360 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,040 disappearance in the next film 1361 00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,960 interesting interesting so they're 1362 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,480 basically not going to pull a rogue one 1363 00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:21,119 is what you're saying no 1364 00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:21,920 hope 1365 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,800 rogue one was so dope though it was dope 1366 00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,480 i agree with you i agree with you so 1367 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,240 like i feel like this is where the room 1368 00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,240 splits i feel like mac and i are on one 1369 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,160 side and alan and miss camille are on 1370 00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:34,319 the other 1371 00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,760 no camille likes it you like it right 1372 00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:39,359 i don't really have one that i don't 1373 00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:40,400 like 1374 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,520 yeah 1375 00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,880 okay i just really would like to see the 1376 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,640 original of that just want to throw that 1377 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:45,920 out there i know there's the original 1378 00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,000 cut out there if you're listening if 1379 00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:50,880 someone has that let's talk turkey 1380 00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,640 i have bitcoin feel me out no one has it 1381 00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,720 no one has it 1382 00:56:04,549 --> 00:55:59,359 oh god so we're gonna go deep web for 1383 00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:06,870 deep web is very scary 1384 00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,520 yeah i andrew you're right i didn't i 1385 00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:10,880 don't like 1386 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:20,789 i didn't hate it 1387 00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,760 i i just had zero like the execution was 1388 00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,400 was well done in my mind but i i had 1389 00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,880 zero emotional connection to a single 1390 00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,680 character bro listen if you watch the 1391 00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,520 original trailer for that if you watch 1392 00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,359 the original trailer and compare that to 1393 00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,440 like the movie that we saw 1394 00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,920 there's like half the trailer is not in 1395 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:41,920 that movie man they made a lot of 1396 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:44,480 changes there was a lot of re there was 1397 00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:46,720 a lot of reshoots in that movie 1398 00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:47,599 now 1399 00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,040 i thought there were some really had it 1400 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,720 had its moments like i thought donnie 1401 00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,880 yen killed it and like i liked his i 1402 00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,240 liked his whole like his whole character 1403 00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:56,319 about how he wasn't the jedi but you 1404 00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:58,559 know he believes in the force right you 1405 00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,359 know he's forcing the forces with him i 1406 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,119 love i love that i i really did love 1407 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,040 seeing that and you had to know going 1408 00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,599 into it spoiler alert that the crew that 1409 00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:09,280 went to take down the death star to get 1410 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,960 the plans wasn't going to make it out 1411 00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,480 like you knew that you knew it was gonna 1412 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,160 go down that way 1413 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,240 you know what i mean like i i'm really 1414 00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,920 happy with it i'm really happy with it 1415 00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:19,359 and the last thing i'll say about it i 1416 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:21,280 really thought it was cool how they 1417 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:22,400 showed that not everyone in the 1418 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,040 rebellion is like a really good guy like 1419 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,640 some of them you know had to do some 1420 00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,799 dirty work to get the job done some of 1421 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,280 them are saboteurs assassins i thought 1422 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,640 that was pretty cool because you don't 1423 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,240 see that side of the rebels the 1424 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,920 rebellion you don't see that side in the 1425 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,400 holy trilogy 1426 00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,960 uh yeah and and if you look at real life 1427 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,400 first 1428 00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:44,079 yeah i mean think of it think about 1429 00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,400 world war two in real life and i'm sorry 1430 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,000 camille 1431 00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,799 i said not unless you believe han shot 1432 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,240 first 1433 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:53,680 right let's not go please let's not go 1434 00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:59,030 thing and i would be like 1435 00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,160 but if you think about real life you 1436 00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,920 think about the holocaust in world war 1437 00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,839 ii um 1438 00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,839 and and you make the parallel then the 1439 00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:06,880 rebels 1440 00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:09,839 were you know the anti-nazis then yeah 1441 00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:12,559 people did some some some you know 1442 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:13,920 hardcore 1443 00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,880 um killing because they had to it was a 1444 00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,960 matter of survival and it it's and 1445 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,720 that's where the original idea i feel 1446 00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,280 like kind of justified someone like 1447 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,839 like han solo that is because right 1448 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,000 being being a scoundrel character if 1449 00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,760 your motives are 1450 00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,680 um on the side of good you can get away 1451 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,680 with it you gotta do it man he was 1452 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:35,520 pushed against the wall he knew his life 1453 00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,720 was on the line he drew first it doesn't 1454 00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,400 change anything about it he's a guy he's 1455 00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,400 a dirty scoundrel he's a shrubby looking 1456 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,160 nerve herder man that's not going to 1457 00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:50,230 if your motives and your morals are good 1458 00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,280 and you live in an immoral world 1459 00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:55,680 sometimes you have to break the law rosa 1460 00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:03,430 and yep okay you will if you have 1461 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:05,839 morality you'll regret it later and 1462 00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:13,349 right okay so 1463 00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:15,040 now do you guys see any connection 1464 00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,160 between 1465 00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,960 uh rogue one and this new film at all 1466 00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,799 besides just the basic storyline are 1467 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:22,000 there any easter eggs that come with 1468 00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:23,280 these two or 1469 00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,880 uh i have a feeling they might throw 1470 00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:26,559 something in there i have a feeling 1471 00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:27,920 maybe you'll see like 1472 00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,319 k2's like corpse or something like that 1473 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,400 yeah he was to help me he was the homie 1474 00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:35,520 for sure 1475 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,599 yeah okay 1476 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,280 i know i i know you're like not really 1477 00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:41,119 on the road one camp but like tell me 1478 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,559 you didn't feel something when k when 1479 00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,880 kate too you know held it down held it 1480 00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:46,559 down oh that was it that that was my 1481 00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,480 that was the only character that i liked 1482 00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,640 yeah like that you fell for that dude 1483 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:52,799 you fell for the dude 1484 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,680 he made me laugh he made me sad 1485 01:00:04,630 --> 00:59:57,359 they're not pulling those things 1486 01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:06,230 yeah dude 1487 01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,000 honestly look drew you're really not 1488 01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,440 about to like me when i say this but i 1489 01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,520 think cassian is honestly way cooler 1490 01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,520 than han solo 1491 01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:15,680 i can see that though i can see that the 1492 01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,079 fact that he survived that that crash 1493 01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,760 and honestly like 1494 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:21,680 the the things that he was able to do at 1495 01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,040 that you know 1496 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:25,040 in force awakens at the at the battle of 1497 01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:26,480 the new death star what do they call 1498 01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,240 that the what the dark star what is it 1499 01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,000 called the new death star 1500 01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,160 the starkiller base pillar 1501 01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:34,000 yeah 1502 01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,359 it's kind of hard for me to when they 1503 01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,359 when i hear the star killer because 1504 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,880 i don't know if you played uh force 1505 01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,799 unleash ii or sports unleashed but like 1506 01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:42,400 his name was starkiller so it's kind of 1507 01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,000 weird for me to hear that 1508 01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,599 and just hold it right there everybody 1509 01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,599 hold on we're gonna take a quick break 1510 01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,119 you're listening to paranormal now on 1511 01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:51,040 the inception radio network and we will 1512 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,640 come back and continue geeking out on 1513 01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:55,440 star wars stay tuned we've got so much 1514 01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,880 more ground to cover 1515 01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:58,240 all right until 1516 01:01:01,920 --> 01:00:59,920 the next couple of minutes 1517 01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:01,930 hang in there we'll be right back 1518 01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,240 [Music] 1519 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:06,720 hello inception radio network listeners 1520 01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,119 this is amanda remember you can take 1521 01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:11,599 your inception radio shows on the go 1522 01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:13,200 just download the inception radio 1523 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:16,240 network app for your iphone ipad or 1524 01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,640 android smartphones and access 1525 01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:20,400 you're listening to love advice with 1526 01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:23,040 leanne caller you're on the air uh hi 1527 01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:25,040 leanne long time listener first time 1528 01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:26,079 caller 1529 01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,000 why in your professional opinion do you 1530 01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:30,240 never take my calls off the air is this 1531 01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:31,280 carl 1532 01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:35,920 everything was great i thought uh well 1533 01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,280 you know 1534 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,359 when you switch to geico you could save 1535 01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,680 a lot of money on car insurance okay 1536 01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,839 awesome you should call them i will 1537 01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,319 geico because saving 15 or more on car 1538 01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:48,799 insurance is always a great answer live 1539 01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,200 shows past shows guest lineups and much 1540 01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:53,599 more just visit the itunes store or the 1541 01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:55,440 google play marketplace and download it 1542 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,470 you didn't forget what's coming up 1543 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,400 tonight did you hi inception radio 1544 01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,640 network listeners this is amanda never 1545 01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:06,000 miss that interview you were looking 1546 01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:07,680 forward to or the show on your favorite 1547 01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:11,359 topic follow irn on twitter i underscore 1548 01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,839 our underscore n and get reminders about 1549 01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:15,839 the evening's live shows as well as fun 1550 01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:17,359 and important updates throughout the 1551 01:03:33,270 --> 01:02:20,480 week that's i underscore our underscore 1552 01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:36,150 and welcome back to paranormal now 1553 01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:37,839 um all right so we're gonna continue 1554 01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:41,280 geeking out um but before we do drew 1555 01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:42,559 gregory 1556 01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:44,640 is um is there an account an ig account 1557 01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:45,760 or anything that people can get in touch 1558 01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:47,039 with you 1559 01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:50,079 oh yeah the great white chocolate 1560 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:51,520 i gotta say 1561 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,880 you guys say the whole thing the great 1562 01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:54,240 white chocolate 1563 01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:55,760 and um 1564 01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,839 apparently my scene and our friends from 1565 01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:59,359 college which is now streaming on 1566 01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:00,960 netflix made it 1567 01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,960 i can't tell you what episode it is but 1568 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:04,160 just watch the whole thing it's going to 1569 01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,160 be real it's real funny i had a great 1570 01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:08,160 time on that set it was a lot of fun so 1571 01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:10,240 look for that thank you 1572 01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:11,520 all right yeah and just for the for the 1573 01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:14,240 record as a reminder um drew is an actor 1574 01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:15,839 as well camille what about yourself is 1575 01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,440 there any links or anything that you 1576 01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:19,599 want to share are there any links 1577 01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:21,920 well i'm a professional bad influence so 1578 01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:23,359 you can look for me on the police 1579 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:24,319 plotter 1580 01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:36,470 because i did forget in the previous 1581 01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:37,839 break taking us out of the break was 1582 01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:39,599 fascination by larue and taking us out 1583 01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:41,680 of the second break was oh yeah power of 1584 01:04:44,789 --> 01:04:43,359 love by huey lewis and the news that's 1585 01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:44,799 because i grew up in the 80s thank you 1586 01:04:49,039 --> 01:05:02,470 well done my friend well done all right 1587 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:03,750 one of the first movies i remember 1588 01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,880 seeing besides et was back to the future 1589 01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:08,799 all right all right pop if this is a 1590 01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:11,200 pop-up video i've never seen back to the 1591 01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:16,390 i'm just throwing that out there doing 1592 01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,359 that out there i know that might be 1593 01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,520 sacrilegious so that's all we have for 1594 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:20,960 gregory tonight everybody we're moving 1595 01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:24,480 on the brightness looks pretty dope 1596 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:26,079 i thought we were friends drew i thought 1597 01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:27,760 we were friends i can't believe i just 1598 01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:29,680 never seen it man i enjoyed the ride at 1599 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,589 coolest is the relationship between 1600 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,880 daisy 1601 01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:42,000 and mark 1602 01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:43,359 [Laughter] 1603 01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:45,359 in real life we're in the film 1604 01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,559 no i'm just trying to steer the 1605 01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,240 conversation back 1606 01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:50,799 i mean listen 1607 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,640 sorry we could carry it away out like i 1608 01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:54,000 said pick the way back i learned to not 1609 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,990 well i i mean i do want to just keep the 1610 01:06:02,230 --> 01:05:59,760 conversation focused on 1611 01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:02,240 um the jedi as much as possible 1612 01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:03,839 um so we left it off kind of talking 1613 01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:05,760 about the connection perhaps between 1614 01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,920 rogue one and uh episode eight which 1615 01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:09,200 maybe there's some easter eggs but we 1616 01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:11,440 haven't really discovered them yet um 1617 01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,960 but i think you'll see at least one i 1618 01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:14,640 think you'll see at least 1619 01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:15,760 i feel like i haven't gotten like a 1620 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:18,160 thorough sense from camille what what do 1621 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:19,359 you think 1622 01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:20,160 um 1623 01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,119 luke skywalker either has been doing and 1624 01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:25,920 or what what do you think he is planning 1625 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:27,280 on doing 1626 01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,640 i think he went like on a jesus trip man 1627 01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,319 i think he did the whole thing you know 1628 01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:34,960 the axial age we get all our prophets 1629 01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:36,559 and stuff you know 1630 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:38,799 because so far this has been a story of 1631 01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:41,119 it this has been the hero story this is 1632 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,920 the arthurian quest for the holy grail 1633 01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:46,000 only now it's a sword that cuts people 1634 01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,799 with fire and it's fun right it's a fun 1635 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:51,039 combination of things but the logical 1636 01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,720 end of being an ajanu warrior who then 1637 01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,960 becomes a master is then you have to 1638 01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:58,640 question your beliefs and you have to 1639 01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,720 have new input and you have to learn 1640 01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:02,480 things from people who are smarter than 1641 01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:03,359 you and 1642 01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:05,760 dig up matt damon or whatever it is you 1643 01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:08,559 need to do and so i feel like of course 1644 01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,000 we're watching luke develop into 1645 01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:14,559 uh obi-wan 1646 01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:17,839 right who's my favorite character 1647 01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:20,559 of course but the student now surpasses 1648 01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:23,520 the teacher he may have both the dark 1649 01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:25,599 force and the light force balanced 1650 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,400 within him he was set up too i love that 1651 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,920 theory i love that theory that was i 1652 01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,119 never thought about that but i think 1653 01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:32,720 that's a great theory 1654 01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:34,160 because what they were doing right we 1655 01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:35,839 were talking about this earlier is that 1656 01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:38,000 they were giving you know some of the 1657 01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,240 jedi kids were getting the the jedi 1658 01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:42,240 training and some were getting the dark 1659 01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,440 training and so that was a cohesive 1660 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:47,039 balanced environment but then when went 1661 01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:48,160 out of balance and that's why 1662 01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,599 everybody's always obsessed about the 1663 01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:52,799 balance you know so maybe if balance is 1664 01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,359 within ourselves 1665 01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:57,280 instead of expecting it to come from 1666 01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:00,319 somebody who is either an antagonist or 1667 01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,720 someone who will become a protagonist 1668 01:08:08,069 --> 01:08:04,480 that doesn't really necessarily need to 1669 01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:08,079 happen if you're meditating enough 1670 01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:09,200 makes sense 1671 01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,349 yeah um i'm gonna throw this out there 1672 01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:17,279 and mac i'll let you respond first to 1673 01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:18,000 this 1674 01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,040 um 1675 01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:20,640 what do you think 1676 01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:21,920 about 1677 01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:25,279 kylo ren aka ben solo 1678 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,870 he said it 1679 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,309 mac 1680 01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,960 yeah i just didn't know if you were 1681 01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,960 um finishing saying something to that 1682 01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:40,880 yep no 1683 01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:43,040 um so you just want my opinion on kylo 1684 01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:44,159 ren 1685 01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:47,600 he's working for luke 1686 01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:51,440 um no i think uh kylo ren's evil uh kind 1687 01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,040 of what uh kylo ren uh my theory 1688 01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,359 personally on how rey and luke 1689 01:09:02,870 --> 01:08:59,839 skywalker's related ties in a little bit 1690 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,880 just a slight like little smidge with 1691 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,560 kylo ren i just want to throw this in 1692 01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:06,239 there to ask to just to add this your 1693 01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:08,080 question so like obviously something 1694 01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,759 went down with the knights of ren we 1695 01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:11,920 kind of saw like a little like flashback 1696 01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:14,719 to it and for force awakens 1697 01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:16,159 like enlighten us with that what do you 1698 01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:18,839 think that was bro i know it all goes 1699 01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,560 together um honestly i think 1700 01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:24,960 i don't know i don't think that is 1701 01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:27,040 totally um 1702 01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,640 i don't think that's totally what that 1703 01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:30,960 was i don't think that was him 1704 01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:33,679 uh and the rest of the knights of ren 1705 01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,960 sacking whatever temple that uh or 1706 01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:39,359 training facility that luke 1707 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,239 had i think that was um something that's 1708 01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:44,880 going to end up happening to ray or 1709 01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,040 happening to luke later that that was 1710 01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:48,719 kind of a foreshadowing for episode 1711 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:51,759 eight or even episode nine 1712 01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:52,880 well just to go along what we were 1713 01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:55,360 talking about though i mean 1714 01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:58,719 do you think that luke did something 1715 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,880 that the rest of the knights of ren did 1716 01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,480 not agree with 1717 01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,320 and that's why they went their way and 1718 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,640 he went his and he went into exile i 1719 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,159 mean i thought we kind of like thought 1720 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,400 about that's kind of my theory that like 1721 01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:12,719 in last jedi either luke's gonna go bad 1722 01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,520 or so 1723 01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:15,360 like i kind of like allen's theory about 1724 01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,360 how he's half he's half light he's half 1725 01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,760 dark i kind of feel like some something 1726 01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:21,199 happened there man something clearly 1727 01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:22,400 went down 1728 01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:24,960 where luke knows kylo ren he knows the 1729 01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:26,800 other knights of ran we don't know if 1730 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,840 they're around anymore 1731 01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:31,520 but uh so something something happened 1732 01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,159 there man something happened there 1733 01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:36,320 i think because um 1734 01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,520 i think because kylo ren or at the time 1735 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,080 before he became kylo ren ben solo knew 1736 01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:44,400 about his family's history and how 1737 01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:47,199 strong uh in the force the skywalker 1738 01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:49,520 bloodline is uh his grandfather anakin 1739 01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:50,800 skywalker 1740 01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:54,320 before darth vader and uh then 1741 01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:57,440 training him his uncle luke skywalker 1742 01:11:02,470 --> 01:10:59,360 how immensely powerful they both are in 1743 01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,480 the force he felt like um he wanted in a 1744 01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,199 sense to have that uh injection of 1745 01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,199 minichlorians and just wanted the easy 1746 01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:09,360 way out in the fast way and that's the 1747 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,360 way of the dark side and that's why he 1748 01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:13,679 and luke didn't get along because luke 1749 01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:17,280 was saying that yes it's okay to have 1750 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,320 darkness and have demons but at the same 1751 01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:22,640 time you must be able to 1752 01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:24,840 hold on to yourself and 1753 01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:28,239 uh kind of keep your consciousness and 1754 01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:31,040 your morals kind of all uh wound 1755 01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,000 together 1756 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,199 and keep from doing irrational things 1757 01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:37,840 like uh the dark side characters that 1758 01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,880 we've seen through the entire saga do 1759 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:43,440 so i think it was really just his 1760 01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:45,440 he was having a power rush when he first 1761 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:47,440 started getting a little bit of training 1762 01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:50,320 and realizing uh that maybe there was a 1763 01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:52,480 possibility that he was uh 1764 01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:55,280 succeeding or that he was um learning 1765 01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,159 things faster than his classmates or the 1766 01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,120 other uh younglings or padawans and he 1767 01:12:05,669 --> 01:12:03,840 was thinking uh that he was wasting his 1768 01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:05,679 time by trying to 1769 01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,800 be so 1770 01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,960 precise and uh 1771 01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,480 just kind of 1772 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,239 taking in the slow 1773 01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:15,520 and hard but well deserved way he wanted 1774 01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:18,159 to just go go go and luke was like no 1775 01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:20,239 you can't do that and so he said okay 1776 01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,840 well i'll just i'll defeat you or and he 1777 01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:25,440 probably tried to attack luke or 1778 01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:27,199 something like that and 1779 01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,719 when he realized he couldn't do that he 1780 01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:31,440 probably just said okay well i'll just 1781 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:32,960 keep you from being able to teach 1782 01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:36,000 anybody these stupid ways and just 1783 01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,430 i think you pretty much just like 1784 01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,360 telegraphed you know the shocking scene 1785 01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:46,239 that's going to occur in the last jedi 1786 01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:48,080 if it goes down i think max just called 1787 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,840 it same scene somebody gets cut down 1788 01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:53,840 with a lightsaber someone's losing an 1789 01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,679 army we know someone's losing an arm or 1790 01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,520 a hand you know that that that's that 1791 01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:59,040 just has to happen 1792 01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:00,640 i like it i know it's tradition it's 1793 01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:03,920 tradition it's a tradition at this point 1794 01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,159 maybe maybe it's a foot now instead wait 1795 01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:08,880 so mac do you agree though that luke at 1796 01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,199 one point was leader of the the knights 1797 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,239 of ren you do agree with that um i don't 1798 01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,760 i don't agree that he was the leader of 1799 01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,000 the knights of ren i think that if the 1800 01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:20,480 knights of ren are uh people or do you 1801 01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,000 think they respond from his teachings do 1802 01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:23,840 you think they spawn from okay i think 1803 01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:26,000 they spawned from him but they were 1804 01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,159 probably just like kylo ren wasn't 1805 01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,800 always kylo ren he was at once ben solo 1806 01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:33,360 say that uh one of the other knights of 1807 01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:37,040 ren's name is alan smith or and uh 1808 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:38,960 you know drew gregory 1809 01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:39,760 yeah 1810 01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,840 but i mean 1811 01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,239 but then once they became evil they had 1812 01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:46,960 to take on an alias or another name to 1813 01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:49,360 mask their previous identity 1814 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:51,840 no that totally makes it not confusing 1815 01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,040 when some character has three four right 1816 01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:57,040 three names yeah 1817 01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:00,480 exactly and then we're here i mean we 1818 01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:01,840 and we all know 1819 01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,120 that kylo ren has skywalker blood and 1820 01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,120 knowing the skywalker history being 1821 01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:09,280 anxious to learn fast is is definitely 1822 01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:12,840 in the blood so i am 1823 01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,400 surprised and not good 1824 01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:18,560 and not and not good i mean even even 1825 01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:20,320 luke was tempted to cross over to the 1826 01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:22,239 dark side i mean he had it but he had to 1827 01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,590 you know saying you gotta balance that 1828 01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,400 [\h__\h] out in yourself i mean exactly 1829 01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,480 you know so my 1830 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,960 my dark dark suspicion 1831 01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:36,800 is that let's hear it 1832 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:39,440 in luke's in luke's attempt to try to 1833 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,880 balance being light and dark he is 1834 01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:44,880 actually behind 1835 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,679 behind the the destruction of the temple 1836 01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,280 and 1837 01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:51,840 all the slaughtering i i think that that 1838 01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,760 he may have motivated that it might have 1839 01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:55,679 gone out of control 1840 01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:57,520 but i think that 1841 01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:58,880 i think he was dipping into the dark 1842 01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:00,320 side 1843 01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,960 mac who destroyed the jedi temple where 1844 01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:06,800 i 1845 01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:13,280 who who just who 1846 01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,000 i can't remember mac you know this 1847 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:18,320 you can't remember why the who destroyed 1848 01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:19,760 the jedi 1849 01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:20,960 temple 1850 01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:24,640 um i think that it was probably uh kylo 1851 01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:29,679 ren but it wasn't kylo ren that was or 1852 01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:32,719 i think it was ben solo not kylo ren i 1853 01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:35,199 think it was ben solo because 1854 01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:36,719 in the movie 1855 01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:38,560 in uh seven 1856 01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,040 um leia and han are talking when they're 1857 01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,520 back at the resistance base 1858 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:44,640 um 1859 01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:45,920 yeah and 1860 01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,040 uh leia says that uh snoke had been kind 1861 01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,360 of trying to take 1862 01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,600 uh ben away from them for a long time 1863 01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,520 and ended up succeeding so i think that 1864 01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,520 he was probably like whispering in his 1865 01:16:02,229 --> 01:15:59,600 ear from a distant like through either 1866 01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:02,239 through the force or you know meeting 1867 01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,360 him at some location and was planting a 1868 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,360 seed in his head to become dark and 1869 01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:09,280 that's why he's now 1870 01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,239 working as you know snoke's apprentice 1871 01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,560 and the master of the knights of ren 1872 01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:16,800 it's it's just 1873 01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:24,390 because 1874 01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:27,120 if ben solo had this 1875 01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:30,560 gift and we know who his mother is 1876 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:33,360 people would feel that 1877 01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:36,080 and that would be dangerous 1878 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,199 however 1879 01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,760 there's no institutional structure for 1880 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:41,600 him to get trained 1881 01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:46,390 because you remember how they were like 1882 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:48,239 no luke is too old obviously right okay 1883 01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,280 but this is a kid and he's got all those 1884 01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:53,679 midichlorian type genes 1885 01:17:03,270 --> 01:16:59,830 i blame society well drew what do you 1886 01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:05,030 before i forget because 1887 01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,640 it's so rare that i'm here with here 1888 01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:08,400 with the jedi master and i just want to 1889 01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:09,600 ask mack 1890 01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:12,320 do you think that snoke 1891 01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,239 is an existing character that we've 1892 01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:16,719 already met or is he a character that 1893 01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,320 was introduced in force awakens 1894 01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:22,159 well um 1895 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:22,960 i 1896 01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:39,760 character we've already seen 1897 01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:42,000 okay who do you think it is 1898 01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,960 dude i gotta go with because he's not i 1899 01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,560 got to know it i gotta tell you tell me 1900 01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,159 who is it to me he's not really 1901 01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:50,000 traditional dark side like the way 1902 01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:52,480 sidious and vader were like it's kind of 1903 01:17:58,950 --> 01:17:56,000 like a new dark side so i'd have to say 1904 01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,960 it's either in my opinion it's got to be 1905 01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,040 either plagueis survived his injuries 1906 01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:03,040 from palpatine whenever possible tried 1907 01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:03,760 to 1908 01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,760 murder him in his sleep 1909 01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:07,199 i guess was like the the most powerful 1910 01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,480 sith of all time 1911 01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:10,000 it's mace windy 1912 01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:10,880 oh 1913 01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:13,600 seven i've heard 1914 01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:15,040 100 1915 01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,800 always making oh you think so camille 1916 01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,040 you think it's mace windu 1917 01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:21,600 and come back for episode 8 or 9. i 1918 01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:24,480 would love to see that he was the isaac 1919 01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:27,199 hayes of star wars 1920 01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:29,199 case 1921 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:32,239 i like that he's the chef of star wars 1922 01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:35,760 okay so wait wait wait wait so okay but 1923 01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:38,560 you can't have samuel coming back 1924 01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:43,830 but you already have andy circus doing 1925 01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:46,000 snoke's voice and he's great he's a 1926 01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:47,120 graphic 1927 01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,040 yeah but it's been it's been over the 1928 01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:51,600 it's been time has passed alan time has 1929 01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:54,960 passed i mean i don't sound as young and 1930 01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,120 surprised as i did from five years ago 1931 01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:58,880 you know that things happened a couple 1932 01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,280 of years i noticed that i noticed that 1933 01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,280 i know i know it's terrible i probably 1934 01:19:06,830 --> 01:19:05,040 sound awful on audio this evening i 1935 01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:06,840 apologize to all the 1936 01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:09,679 listeners are they but 1937 01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:10,560 but 1938 01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,760 i just don't see how it's possible 1939 01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,040 unless i mean 1940 01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,400 and now this morph would be less extreme 1941 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:19,199 but clearly the emperor could could when 1942 01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,800 when he's when he's breaking out his 1943 01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:23,199 powers he i mean his face literally 1944 01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:24,320 changes 1945 01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,040 so 1946 01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:27,120 um you know he gets he gets that 1947 01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,840 so 1948 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,440 maybe maybe 1949 01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:32,159 you know samuel can appear in a dis more 1950 01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:34,000 disfigured form 1951 01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:35,040 um 1952 01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:37,520 miss windu i i don't know i don't know i 1953 01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:38,960 don't know if i think it's that divine 1954 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,719 smoke wasn't born that way like he 1955 01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,719 didn't come out the womb like that like 1956 01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,480 that that that dude that has gone 1957 01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:46,320 through some things he's definitely had 1958 01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:47,679 a change or two 1959 01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,640 you know 1960 01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:50,640 gone down in his life 1961 01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,120 and why would mace when do be be dark on 1962 01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:55,120 the dark side 1963 01:19:59,189 --> 01:19:57,600 you know because mace windu before 1964 01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:59,199 before the uh 1965 01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:01,280 before um 1966 01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:05,360 we all see him he was he was already uh 1967 01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,040 playing with about that's the reason his 1968 01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:08,800 lightsaber's purple he was balancing the 1969 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:10,239 dark and the light side that's why he 1970 01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:12,239 created his own lightsaber combat form 1971 01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:15,520 called the pod because um or as many 1972 01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,400 people like to say vape had um because 1973 01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:20,560 there wasn't a lightsaber combat form 1974 01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:23,199 that really uh did his 1975 01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:24,159 um 1976 01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,440 jedi way 1977 01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:28,239 or his way of training justice because 1978 01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:29,920 all of them were 1979 01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,400 tailored to purely light side force 1980 01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,320 users so he had to create his own 1981 01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:36,880 lightsaber form called the pod because 1982 01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:40,719 he balanced the light and the dark 1983 01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:42,159 see that's why 1984 01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,080 it has to be said right there okay is 1985 01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:46,880 closed and he didn't exactly die either 1986 01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:48,239 right i mean we just see him falling 1987 01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:50,000 falling out the window yeah he went out 1988 01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:55,030 out the window a lot of cats that went 1989 01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:56,400 out the window in the starboard in the 1990 01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,480 star wars trilogy 1991 01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:00,880 and we know 1992 01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:02,800 the forced lightning from the emperor it 1993 01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:04,400 doesn't necessarily kill you on impact 1994 01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,239 we've seen that force lightning doesn't 1995 01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,400 kill instantly so he could have taken a 1996 01:21:12,630 --> 01:21:10,320 lot of that and been fighting it doesn't 1997 01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:12,640 kill jedi instantly 1998 01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:28,390 i mean we've seen 1999 01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:31,199 luke get hit with uh forced lightning 2000 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:32,560 we've seen maze get hit with force 2001 01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,400 lightning luke lived i don't see why 2002 01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:36,480 mace can't we've also seen anakin 2003 01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:40,800 skywalker speaking of the exact same 2004 01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,360 setting we've seen uh or anakin 2005 01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,199 skywalker rather we've seen anakin 2006 01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,080 skywalker jump out of the uh speeder and 2007 01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:50,800 coruscant and land down on zamosel's uh 2008 01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:53,360 oh yeah speeder so if he can jump 2009 01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:56,239 and fall down that like those i'm sure 2010 01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:59,040 that was at least 50 stories if he could 2011 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,120 jump and fall all the way down there and 2012 01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,120 land on the ship perfectly fine i don't 2013 01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:05,920 see why mace went and and oh this just 2014 01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,480 came to mind uh luke skywalker could 2015 01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,960 fall off of the thing uh the 2016 01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,719 the little uh forgot what it's called 2017 01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:15,120 the antenna or like the little thing 2018 01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,320 that's fitting 2019 01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,320 yeah yeah yeah the closest fell off i 2020 01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:20,239 don't see why uh mace windu couldn't 2021 01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:21,280 live from falling out of the 2022 01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:27,430 why can't han solo survive a fall i know 2023 01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,400 he's not 2024 01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:30,080 you know exactly force-sensitive it's 2025 01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:33,040 not more sensitive exactly 2026 01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,239 he's not 2027 01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:36,400 but we didn't actually see him die right 2028 01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,080 let's think of it from from a disney 2029 01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,239 standpoint now hold on like to making 2030 01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:42,960 money disney owns star wars disney owns 2031 01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:44,000 marvel 2032 01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,880 okay 2033 01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:46,800 i i love him having sam jackson bring 2034 01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:49,120 sam jackson back as stoke why not why 2035 01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:50,080 not 2036 01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,629 in star wars 2037 01:23:02,390 --> 01:22:59,520 the completely traumatizing death 2038 01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,400 that turns someone into a hero 2039 01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,000 the inconsequential death of some 2040 01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:06,560 soldier or robot who cares 2041 01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:10,639 and then there is the questionable death 2042 01:23:14,629 --> 01:23:12,719 the questionable suspense that makes us 2043 01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:14,639 want to go see the next movie 2044 01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:19,750 i mean here's the thing he got stabbed 2045 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:22,639 with a lightsaber but if if upon being 2046 01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,280 stabbed stabbed not sliced stabbed by a 2047 01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:28,560 lightsaber if the the force user of the 2048 01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:30,800 lightsaber is not imbuing force energy 2049 01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:33,920 into the lightsaber it is obviously we 2050 01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:36,159 see that he that it didn't melt his 2051 01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:38,400 insides instantly right 2052 01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:40,400 yeah but he even just listened to that 2053 01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:42,800 master hold on was he a master it was he 2054 01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:46,159 just a master at night max no whatever 2055 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,600 never saying that he's probably no no no 2056 01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,360 but i'm speaking about han solo here han 2057 01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,199 solo got stabbed by ben 2058 01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,440 oh he's down he's done that's right 2059 01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,360 but no but it didn't melt him right away 2060 01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:57,280 why didn't why didn't the the lightsaber 2061 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,159 just 2062 01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:00,880 obliterate his organs instantly i think 2063 01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:03,199 yeah i think that when 2064 01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,520 people are at a certain ot level sorry 2065 01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:07,520 i'm just watching all this stuff um when 2066 01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:09,520 you reach a certain level 2067 01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,520 you can because we i still think that 2068 01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:13,920 obi-wan could was had learned how to 2069 01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:16,159 bring people back to life but i think 2070 01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:17,840 that when your energy is in a certain 2071 01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:21,040 place you can manipulate stuff but han 2072 01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,679 wasn't one of those folks 2073 01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,520 no but what i'm saying is couldn't ben 2074 01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,440 manipulate the lightsaber 2075 01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:29,760 this is what i'm saying because when ben 2076 01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:30,639 gets 2077 01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:34,400 decapitated by the lightsaber he just 2078 01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:36,400 disappears and then he goes into the 2079 01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:38,320 ether and he has a 2080 01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,920 a uh 2081 01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:42,480 an intangible form that represents who 2082 01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,560 he is entirely including his intentions 2083 01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,400 and his belief system 2084 01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,480 that's not the same kind of death that 2085 01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,360 goes into the mysterious death 2086 01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:53,679 category the traumatizing death the 2087 01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:56,400 inconsequential death and the 2088 01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:59,679 mysterious death that's how i see it 2089 01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:01,120 i don't know mac what do you think do 2090 01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:02,719 you think that that 2091 01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,920 um 2092 01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:05,040 kylo ren 2093 01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:06,960 um could have 2094 01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,639 purposely controlled the energy of that 2095 01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:10,480 lifesaver so as not to just completely 2096 01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:12,400 obliterate the insides of his father han 2097 01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:14,080 solo 2098 01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,239 well as much as i 2099 01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:18,239 know that star wars fans or at least 2100 01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,960 other star wars fans uh such as drew 2101 01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:22,880 like it to be 2102 01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:25,520 mostly mystical and hate when science 2103 01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:29,040 plays a part um science in everyday life 2104 01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:30,400 i mean let me just say i believe in 2105 01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:33,600 science and everything that it does 2106 01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:34,480 um 2107 01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:37,920 god god made us all but god made us all 2108 01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:41,760 with science i that that's my i mean 2109 01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,870 right 2110 01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,360 um anyone know that reference no 2111 01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:52,639 no i got done 2112 01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:00,390 um all right so okay but now here's the 2113 01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,920 thing mac i think you make a good point 2114 01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,679 um and i was thinking about this earlier 2115 01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:05,920 in our conversation um 2116 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:07,199 and it hadn't actually occurred to me 2117 01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:08,400 and it's probably right in front of my 2118 01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:11,520 face in the movie um but the idea of 2119 01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:13,520 metaphorians actually when i was 19 and 2120 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:15,840 i was smoking a lot of 2121 01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:18,320 uh herbs at the time 2122 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,560 let's call it uh 2123 01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,750 yeah some um natural green herbs um i i 2124 01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,600 was really into episode one i mean i 2125 01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:31,840 loved it and the whole and i didn't 2126 01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,880 really 2127 01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,320 i thought the medichlorian thing was 2128 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,480 really cool and i thought that it still 2129 01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:39,120 kept a metaphysical aspect to it because 2130 01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:40,639 the midichlorians 2131 01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,310 maybe they only work if you are already 2132 01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:48,400 strongly force sensitive like you can't 2133 01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:50,560 just inject midichlorians into anybody 2134 01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,880 and at work okay no 2135 01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:54,480 right oh yeah 2136 01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:55,199 yeah 2137 01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,560 so you're still you're still marrying 2138 01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,560 mysticism and and science so that's a 2139 01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:00,560 beautiful thing 2140 01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,800 yeah right okay you got to expose the 2141 01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:04,560 tune 2142 01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:07,520 you know i was really gonna uh hit you 2143 01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:10,560 hit you with um a trivia effect or a 2144 01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:12,159 factor you please 2145 01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,719 do it do it mac probably never thought 2146 01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:16,800 about um 2147 01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,520 you remember do you remember in 1977 2148 01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:21,920 when the first star wars movie came out 2149 01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:25,199 another cantina scene was when uh panda 2150 01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,159 baba grabbed which is what many people 2151 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,440 call walrus man grabbed luke skywalker 2152 01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:34,080 and had a problem with him and dr evazon 2153 01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:37,360 who was his partner he doesn't like you 2154 01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:39,679 yeah he was saying that he had a problem 2155 01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:42,800 with him i don't like you either 2156 01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,800 and all that stuff 2157 01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:47,120 well uh you know when panda boxes watch 2158 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:48,320 yourself 2159 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,830 systems 2160 01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:00,310 but uh whenever he got his arm chopped 2161 01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:03,280 off uh his forearm you saw a blood on 2162 01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,239 the floor that is the only movie that 2163 01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:08,880 you see blood on the floor or like blood 2164 01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:11,360 from getting an um 2165 01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:12,719 chopped off 2166 01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:14,400 right that is 2167 01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:15,280 uh 2168 01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,080 here's the science behind that the race 2169 01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:20,880 that panda baba is is called aqualish 2170 01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:23,360 aquas are kind of like spider creatures 2171 01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:27,199 in a way spiders in the real world have 2172 01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:29,760 open circulatory system which means you 2173 01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:32,159 cut off a finger you cut off the arm 2174 01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:34,400 there's no veins or anything like they 2175 01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:36,080 literally pump blood straight through 2176 01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:38,000 their foot like there's it's hollow on 2177 01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,080 the inside there's only blood there 2178 01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:42,800 so when his arm got cut off there was 2179 01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:45,120 nothing there was nothing to cauterize 2180 01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:47,920 so that's why there was blood but any 2181 01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:50,639 other like humans wookies pretty much 2182 01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,080 any other ray 2183 01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:54,719 in star wars has a closed circulatory 2184 01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,120 system like human beings so whenever you 2185 01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:59,440 cut off their arm or their leg or 2186 01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,280 anything that's why it's cauterized and 2187 01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:03,840 there's no blood 2188 01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:06,560 i love that okay i never do it yeah 2189 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,960 that makes perfect sense 2190 01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:10,480 now if you're if you're force sensitive 2191 01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:11,440 though can 2192 01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,159 can you control um you know what's going 2193 01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,760 on with you internally if you're if 2194 01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:17,040 you're injured 2195 01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,669 if there is i can honestly say i don't 2196 01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,679 have an answer to that i love being 2197 01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:27,840 called the jedi master but i mean 2198 01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:30,159 everyone should know you want in this 2199 01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:32,159 room buddy when it when it comes to star 2200 01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:33,280 wars 2201 01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:37,360 you i honestly have come to uh 2202 01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:40,159 come to justice with um the fact that i 2203 01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:42,320 don't think i'll ever know everything i 2204 01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,000 think i'll always know a lot but i don't 2205 01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:46,400 think i'll ever know everything no just 2206 01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,440 because there's constantly new material 2207 01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:51,440 coming out and even though i'm trying my 2208 01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:54,560 best to keep up with it um there's not 2209 01:29:59,669 --> 01:29:56,960 more than one mac barn and 2210 01:30:02,950 --> 01:29:59,679 i still have other uh humanly things 2211 01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:02,960 that i have to do so i mean as i'd like 2212 01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:05,760 to say that yeah probably away um it 2213 01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:08,000 hasn't been stated yet in anything any 2214 01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:10,159 medium that i've read so far comics 2215 01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:12,480 movies anything like that but i'm sure 2216 01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:14,719 i'm sure if you're a jedi and you can do 2217 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:16,719 things like have lightning and fire come 2218 01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:19,360 out of your fingertips i'm 2219 01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:21,760 i'm more than positive that there's an 2220 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:24,320 ability where you can uh control your 2221 01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:26,159 lightsaber to where how much damage it 2222 01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,199 does pretty much yeah okay i agree well 2223 01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,360 yeah plagueis could he could troll alive 2224 01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,440 and death though plagueis could 2225 01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:34,880 oh there's going to be a 2226 01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:36,080 there's going to be other cats that were 2227 01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:37,280 you know sensitive with the force that 2228 01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:38,719 could do something similar there's got 2229 01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:39,679 to be 2230 01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:42,000 oh yeah i agree with that okay cool 2231 01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:43,120 let's hold it right there guys we're 2232 01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:45,520 going to take another quick and last 2233 01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,080 break um this is allen b smith for 2234 01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:51,040 paranormal now my guests are drew 2235 01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:55,440 gregory uh camille bettina atkinson and 2236 01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,520 mack barnes who doesn't like to be 2237 01:31:05,910 --> 01:30:59,840 called the star wars encyclopedia but 2238 01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,390 hello inception radio network listeners 2239 01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:10,800 this is amanda remember you can take 2240 01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:13,280 your inception radio shows on the go 2241 01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:14,880 just download the inception radio 2242 01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:17,920 network app for your iphone ipad or 2243 01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,320 android smartphones and access live 2244 01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:22,800 shows past shows guest lineups and much 2245 01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:25,199 more just visit the itunes store or the 2246 01:31:29,580 --> 01:31:26,960 google play marketplace and download it 2247 01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:29,590 today for free 2248 01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:51,510 okay kevin for the grand prize of one 2249 01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:54,480 million dollars what color is the white 2250 01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:56,560 house um 2251 01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,199 i know this i know this i know this 2252 01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:01,920 um five seconds oh 2253 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:03,600 switching to geico could save you a 2254 01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:05,760 bunch of money on car insurance 2255 01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:06,800 okay 2256 01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:08,480 judges 2257 01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:10,480 that's true kevin they'll allow it 2258 01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:14,000 congratulations you're a winner 2259 01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:16,480 geico because saving 15 or more on car 2260 01:32:37,940 --> 01:32:19,020 insurance is always a great answer 2261 01:32:37,950 --> 01:33:22,870 [Music] 2262 01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:24,709 welcome back to paranormal now i'm your 2263 01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:26,560 host alan b smith on the inception radio 2264 01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:29,120 network and uh my guest tonight oh we 2265 01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:30,800 are all geeking out and talking about 2266 01:33:34,149 --> 01:33:32,639 star wars um 2267 01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:34,159 i want to pick it up a little bit where 2268 01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:37,360 we left off um oh and i almost forgot 2269 01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,719 coming out of the break was what i got 2270 01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:40,800 by sublime uh let's pick it up if you 2271 01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:42,639 were if you were at comic con yesterday 2272 01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,719 happy star wars day 2273 01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:47,120 it's saturday now obviously but friday 2274 01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,350 so let's let's talk about the science 2275 01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,000 um a little bit more 2276 01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:02,080 uh i think that when the first films 2277 01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:04,719 came out and science wasn't really that 2278 01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:07,520 important do you think 2279 01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:08,800 i think that's a great i don't agree 2280 01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:09,679 with that 2281 01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:10,800 yeah 2282 01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:11,600 i 2283 01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,280 makes sense to me 2284 01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:55,760 i i can't believe i'm saying this but i 2285 01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:58,239 i get why you like the prequel you know 2286 01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:00,000 you were around for the original holy 2287 01:35:06,149 --> 01:35:03,360 trilogy i get it i get it now yes 2288 01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,159 i'm so sorry i'm so sorry 2289 01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:08,000 for all the things i committed 2290 01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:09,040 just like 2291 01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:12,639 star wars universe 2292 01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:14,560 salutes the kind of diversity that we 2293 01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:16,480 have and to have different ideas fosters 2294 01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,560 conversation it's not a bad thing you 2295 01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,400 know and i would never ever try to 2296 01:35:23,990 --> 01:35:22,320 convince somebody 2297 01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:24,000 that they're wrong when it comes to a 2298 01:35:26,870 --> 01:35:25,920 piece of fiction 2299 01:35:30,149 --> 01:35:26,880 right 2300 01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:30,159 yeah 2301 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,520 you know although i think we all we all 2302 01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:33,600 have our theories and you know 2303 01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:34,560 yeah 2304 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,920 that's why i love you talking about 2305 01:35:39,669 --> 01:35:37,440 especially the hypotheticals there was a 2306 01:35:42,629 --> 01:35:39,679 lot of hypotheticals today i loved it 2307 01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:42,639 stations about literature and tracks of 2308 01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,880 history those conversations think about 2309 01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:46,880 the knowledge that's encased in the 2310 01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:49,920 torah it's basically a series of 2311 01:35:54,310 --> 01:35:52,560 criticisms of the bible and people can 2312 01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:54,320 keep writing in it 2313 01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:56,960 right 2314 01:36:01,110 --> 01:35:59,600 perfect 2315 01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:01,120 no 2316 01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:05,760 just to go along with that all right so 2317 01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,000 obviously you know lucas no longer has 2318 01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:10,080 the rights and it's been sold to disney 2319 01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:11,760 we have a lot of star wars movies coming 2320 01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:12,560 out 2321 01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:15,199 do you think they continue the trilogy 2322 01:36:19,910 --> 01:36:16,639 or you know 2323 01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:19,920 after 789 do you could did you continue 2324 01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:22,800 it do you give us a 10 11 12 or do you 2325 01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:24,480 focus on different characters do you 2326 01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:25,920 focus on different aspects of the 2327 01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:28,320 universe guys honestly like i've heard 2328 01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,159 i've had enough of the main characters 2329 01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:32,080 let's just let's just explore other 2330 01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:34,480 areas i'm gonna die anyway but here's 2331 01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:37,440 the thing every single one of those 2332 01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:40,719 movies was a first star wars movie to 2333 01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:43,440 someone who is a fan now 2334 01:36:47,669 --> 01:36:45,280 every single one 2335 01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:47,679 and so if those movies are good and they 2336 01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:49,440 tell a good story and people forget 2337 01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:52,480 about homework for two hours fine 2338 01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,080 sidebar to my 80s cats that are 2339 01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,400 listening uh camille have you seen have 2340 01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,880 you seen the ewoks movies have you seen 2341 01:37:01,430 --> 01:37:00,480 them 2342 01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:01,440 no i'm just saying have you have you 2343 01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:03,440 seen the ebooks movies and mac have you 2344 01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,840 seen the ewoks 2345 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:06,480 movies because i've definitely seen them 2346 01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:08,080 yeah i agree with you they're amazing 2347 01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:09,920 they're incredible and 2348 01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,040 you know hopefully we'll see them in 2349 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,760 high definition one day mind jesus i 2350 01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:15,040 didn't think i would think about that 2351 01:37:21,970 --> 01:37:17,199 ever 2352 01:37:21,980 --> 01:37:33,030 [Music] 2353 01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:34,550 the bat yeah battle for endor and the 2354 01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:36,320 ewok adventure right 2355 01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:37,360 oh no 2356 01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,880 i saw the 2357 01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,800 star wars christmas special when it was 2358 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:41,920 on 2359 01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:44,080 that and that is why camille i will bow 2360 01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:46,159 down to you well done that's why i do 2361 01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:47,280 drugs wow 2362 01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:48,560 wow yeah 2363 01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,000 yep that's that's the original 2364 01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:52,320 appearance of a fat little little pop-up 2365 01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,239 video fact 2366 01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,159 appeared in the 2367 01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,960 star wars holiday special as an animated 2368 01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,400 character 2369 01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:02,880 before he became you know pop culture 2370 01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,000 and icon 2371 01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:05,679 baby chewbacca 2372 01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,639 um 2373 01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:08,159 so alan i wanted to talk a little bit 2374 01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,400 about what it's like to be i said you 2375 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,080 know i asked you to say one word but i 2376 01:38:17,669 --> 01:38:14,080 think this is specific what is it like 2377 01:38:19,990 --> 01:38:17,679 to be a femme who likes star wars 2378 01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,000 um because not all people with a female 2379 01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:22,719 perspective are men or women 2380 01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:23,600 so 2381 01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,480 um 2382 01:38:30,070 --> 01:38:26,560 from a femme perspective obviously the 2383 01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:30,080 costumes are extraordinarily important 2384 01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,480 and why are they important because 2385 01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:34,239 they're not about 2386 01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:35,679 sexy body 2387 01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:37,199 right 2388 01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,760 carrie fisher was wearing a bath sheet 2389 01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:41,360 and i 2390 01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,840 wasn't good 2391 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,639 mama looks she looked amazing it was 2392 01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,960 beautiful it was like a donna karen 2393 01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:48,000 piece but 2394 01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,080 looking at the hair i was a little girl 2395 01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:52,239 who had to wear double-sided ponytails 2396 01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:55,199 every day and i hated it 2397 01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:57,199 because my grandma would do them so 2398 01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,840 tight i would get a migraine but i saw 2399 01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,119 princess leia and i was like i'm gonna 2400 01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,280 wear those buns you know 2401 01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:05,520 and it was you know this this superhero 2402 01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:08,000 who saved the prince and wasn't really 2403 01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,600 keen on getting with him i mean she 2404 01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:10,800 thought he was fascinating but she 2405 01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:13,360 wasn't all like save my father and i'll 2406 01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,040 be yours forever i didn't have to deal 2407 01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:17,040 with this damsel crap 2408 01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,679 and then to watch that character you 2409 01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:21,760 know they didn't have nearly as many 2410 01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:23,440 female characters as i would have 2411 01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,800 enjoyed but 2412 01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:26,800 um to see that character become a 2413 01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,920 general 2414 01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:29,840 i mean come on 2415 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,400 i couldn't see because all of the tears 2416 01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,480 and the snot it was so 2417 01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:36,159 beautiful 2418 01:39:41,350 --> 01:39:37,520 to see that 2419 01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:41,360 storyline structure allow her to 2420 01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:43,280 manifest power 2421 01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:46,560 to succeed and to be influential because 2422 01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,560 she was meant to and having lost 2423 01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,719 everyone and everything she knew 2424 01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:52,239 in order to start this quest that she 2425 01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,679 didn't know was going to take her on 2426 01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:58,229 i feel like i feel like it's a fair 2427 01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:00,800 assumption to make as a as a male 2428 01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:02,159 um 2429 01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,520 for all males that even if even if we 2430 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:07,040 appreciate 2431 01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:10,159 um the importance of that character 2432 01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:11,360 princess leia 2433 01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,960 or or any resp respected female heroine 2434 01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:16,880 or lead character so particularly 2435 01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:19,119 princess leia there's no way there's an 2436 01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:21,199 og man like how many other characters we 2437 01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,880 can't for her she's definitely but it 2438 01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:24,320 can never 2439 01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:26,080 right but it could never resonate uh 2440 01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:27,600 with us like it 2441 01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:29,360 could a woman true 2442 01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:31,040 we just could never we could never feel 2443 01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:32,320 it the same way 2444 01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,800 it has us 2445 01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,040 because she's also 2446 01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:40,080 um a minority in her situation without a 2447 01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:41,679 doubt 2448 01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:44,480 and she's gone ahead and gone up now 2449 01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,960 when we talk about podme i do love 2450 01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:49,440 natalie portman but i don't know why she 2451 01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:51,679 turned into a popsicle stick for that 2452 01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:54,480 role i don't know 2453 01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:56,880 it was sometimes direction can go 2454 01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:58,159 totally against what you want a 2455 01:41:02,390 --> 01:40:59,920 character to do and that's difficult and 2456 01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:02,400 i think that's where the problem was so 2457 01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:10,709 the stateliness the egyptian majesty all 2458 01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:12,320 that stuff stealing from every culture 2459 01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,719 and making it universal that was just a 2460 01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:16,560 dream come true 2461 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,800 right because this was the only time we 2462 01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,159 were going to get to see pretty things 2463 01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:22,000 in this whole series 2464 01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:23,119 right 2465 01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:25,280 after the shit's just like torn jedi 2466 01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,239 robes 2467 01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:28,000 let's not talk about the scene where 2468 01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:30,960 haran and it can frolic in the meadow of 2469 01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:33,760 naboo one of the worst scenes in the 2470 01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:35,119 entire 2471 01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:37,119 franchise 2472 01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:39,520 but i digress 2473 01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:41,679 aren't they called that's about her that 2474 01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,119 ain't her that ain't her that's not on 2475 01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:45,040 padme that's not unnatally i love you 2476 01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,560 girl 2477 01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,040 no i i agree with camille though that i 2478 01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:52,080 the character is great but i feel like 2479 01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:54,960 i've seen much better acting from her 2480 01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:57,440 than in the character at padme we are we 2481 01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:58,800 talking natalie appointment we thought 2482 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,199 harry potter yep portman 2483 01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:03,360 yeah i agree like she's a great actress 2484 01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:06,000 but like i she definitely phoned that 2485 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,480 one in she definitely phoned that one in 2486 01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:09,760 star wars 2487 01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:11,840 episode i don't know i think i think i 2488 01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:17,270 like and let's be real like episode one 2489 01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:18,639 like okay 2490 01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:20,320 you know she's there she she really 2491 01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:22,159 pretty much doesn't age from episode one 2492 01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:26,239 and two but anakin definitely ages like 2493 01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,960 mama's a cougar padme is a cougar 2494 01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,400 they don't want to say that they want to 2495 01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:32,159 say that but it's a true story it's a 2496 01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,070 jake 2497 01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:40,639 camille what do you think about that 2498 01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,109 i i see it with 2499 01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:49,199 both hayden christensen in that film and 2500 01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:50,960 natalie portman 2501 01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,639 uh that they are 2502 01:43:04,470 --> 01:42:54,400 they i can see their instincts i can 2503 01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,270 that their instincts as performers they 2504 01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:09,360 even have chemistry that's nice of them 2505 01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:12,320 to have chemistry but it gets kind of 2506 01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,239 weird and then all of their scenes have 2507 01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:16,159 kind of this weirdness and i really feel 2508 01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:18,880 like like if it's one actor who's doing 2509 01:43:23,109 --> 01:43:21,040 that that's a problem with a performer 2510 01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:23,119 but if it's more than one actor doing 2511 01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:25,199 that that's a problem with whoever is 2512 01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,760 directing the scene i agree 2513 01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:29,280 exactly 2514 01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:30,560 i can't agree with you more and i think 2515 01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:32,719 it comes from originally anakin being 2516 01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:35,840 you know 10 plus years younger than her 2517 01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:37,760 it was it was always kind of weird and 2518 01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:40,320 it never really played and like 2519 01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:41,760 all of a sudden you know in episode two 2520 01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:44,639 he's more her age but like it just never 2521 01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:46,159 really played man it just never really 2522 01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,600 played for me 2523 01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,960 i don't think it's that weird because 2524 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:50,800 they're they're not they're not 10 years 2525 01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:53,130 apart they're only five 2526 01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:54,960 [Music] 2527 01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:56,560 agreed to disagree 2528 01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,639 i thought seven because you know boys in 2529 01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:00,400 the whole puberty thing it can take a 2530 01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:08,550 uh the uh this this is actually canon 2531 01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:11,280 but it was never said in movies or 2532 01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:14,080 anything like that it took a weird al 2533 01:44:20,070 --> 01:44:17,199 yankovic or yankovich to 2534 01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:20,080 uh bring it out in his uh song about 2535 01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:23,440 episode one when he says um 2536 01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:25,040 great story 2537 01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:27,760 when he's talking about uh anakin and 2538 01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:31,280 padme the lyrics say uh though he's nine 2539 01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:32,960 and she's 14 2540 01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:36,000 but he's going to marry her someday 2541 01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,639 so and then i looked it up to back it up 2542 01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:40,400 and to see if george lucas had said 2543 01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:42,560 anything about it yeah he did state that 2544 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,440 he was nine and she was 14 at the scene 2545 01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:48,480 you know weirdo listen weirdo does his 2546 01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:52,320 research weird al does his research he's 2547 01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:53,760 not going to be 2548 01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,390 so like yeah you have to wonder how much 2549 01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:02,400 time he spent researching before you 2550 01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:03,920 were born my friend 2551 01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:06,000 we we know weirdo for a while like he's 2552 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,000 been around he's the goat 2553 01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:10,320 he definitely is the cat 2554 01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:13,199 he has hits and he's transcended tan he 2555 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:15,920 may be a jedi himself dude that would be 2556 01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:16,800 great 2557 01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:19,520 one more thing 2558 01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:21,199 the force awakens 2559 01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:23,760 as a brown person 2560 01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:26,880 i was so happy 2561 01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:28,639 so happy 2562 01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:30,800 because a lot of times people of color 2563 01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,199 we have to look to whoever is the 2564 01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:35,600 underdog in a story to find somebody to 2565 01:45:39,430 --> 01:45:37,199 identify with 2566 01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:39,440 and not only did we have a hero to 2567 01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:42,800 identify with but he was badass 2568 01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:44,400 so i just want to say that's awesome 2569 01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:45,360 thank you 2570 01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,119 i agree and i think that's really cool 2571 01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:48,719 let me just ask you something about that 2572 01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:52,480 specific topic so i know when the movie 2573 01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:54,080 first came out the original promotional 2574 01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:55,280 material 2575 01:45:57,350 --> 01:45:56,239 said 2576 01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:57,360 that 2577 01:46:02,070 --> 01:46:00,400 finn's father was lindo calrissian like 2578 01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:02,080 you can actually like look it up like 2579 01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:03,440 the original promotional material and 2580 01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:05,920 they've since retconned that and i think 2581 01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:08,320 that's a great idea because the only two 2582 01:46:11,990 --> 01:46:09,760 brothers in the star wars universe you 2583 01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:12,000 know are not related you know and i i 2584 01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:14,239 hope they keep with that i really do 2585 01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:15,199 because 2586 01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:16,320 youtube 2587 01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:18,480 should not be related in any way shape 2588 01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:21,600 or form if they do that i may rescind 2589 01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,800 the entire 2590 01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:24,719 franchise i know drew but you are 2591 01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:26,719 overlooking the fact that chewbacca is a 2592 01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:31,750 let me just say this if chewbacca shaved 2593 01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:33,280 it all off would you still think he's 2594 01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:34,080 cute 2595 01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:40,790 do you i think i think a great way to to 2596 01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,400 uh i just want to throw this out there 2597 01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:44,239 in the promo segment they they all make 2598 01:46:49,109 --> 01:46:46,560 fun of the the fact that the director of 2599 01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:49,119 last jedi and ryan johnson 2600 01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:51,119 can't do a wookiee noise i think we 2601 01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:52,880 should all do a working noise before we 2602 01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:55,360 say goodbye i don't know about that 2603 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:00,229 i think i think that's the point i don't 2604 01:47:05,850 --> 01:47:02,560 think anyone can do it 2605 01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:05,860 i'll go first 2606 01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,470 all right now you know you're listening 2607 01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:16,080 to paranormal now because things just 2608 01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:19,199 got really weird really fast 2609 01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,550 um okay so guys actually i'm glad you 2610 01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:28,639 mentioned that drew because i wanted to 2611 01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:32,239 ask you about rain johnson um 2612 01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,119 now 2613 01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:35,440 he directed the film 2614 01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:37,840 um i know that i was slipping my mind 2615 01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,280 was it loopers 2616 01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:41,520 right and now he's directing star wars 2617 01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:44,560 oh yeah ryan johnson yeah yeah 2618 01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:46,400 how many got the job homie got the job 2619 01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:56,310 if you watch the if you watch that 2620 01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,639 behind the scenes footage you see they 2621 01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,800 all respect the director you know thing 2622 01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,400 gives them a little a little crap for 2623 01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:05,199 not doing the rookie thing but clearly 2624 01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:06,800 no no no one else volunteered their 2625 01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,880 wookie sound so i have a feeling that 2626 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:11,440 yours were not much better than his like 2627 01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,960 i think i think the man's on the right 2628 01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,040 track he he continued with practical 2629 01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:17,280 effects just like jj did 2630 01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,880 and they they promised a shocking 2631 01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:22,560 yet real 2632 01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:24,880 reveal that's gonna happen carrie fisher 2633 01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:27,360 also says that last jedi is all about 2634 01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:29,040 family that was like the last quote they 2635 01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:32,080 show and that little like you know scene 2636 01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:34,159 that that uh that that behind the scenes 2637 01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:36,080 thing here you that they basically and 2638 01:48:39,590 --> 01:48:37,920 with carrie fisher saying you know it's 2639 01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:39,600 all about family you know this film's 2640 01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:41,040 all about family 2641 01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,920 you know 2642 01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:43,520 it's going down it's going down in the 2643 01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:50,229 mac do you have anything to say on that 2644 01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:53,760 yeah i think the the reason star wars 2645 01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:57,119 wasn't just um another pop culture thing 2646 01:49:02,470 --> 01:48:59,520 to me when i was growing up and it's 2647 01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:02,480 resonated with me so long and when he 2648 01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:04,880 was growing up he's still growing up 2649 01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,840 let's be honest yeah mac well done well 2650 01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:09,920 done my friend i gotta say i bow down to 2651 01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:12,239 you you've done amazing continue sorry 2652 01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:13,440 but uh 2653 01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:16,080 why while i'm still growing up why i 2654 01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:18,960 love star wars so much and i don't have 2655 01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:21,920 nearly as deep a love for 2656 01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,159 uh say captain america or marvel or 2657 01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:28,239 alien versus predator since we're on a 2658 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:31,360 sci-fi show or ghostbusters that i do 2659 01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:33,040 for star wars 2660 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,960 is because 2661 01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,159 first of all 2662 01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:38,400 there's two main reasons the first 2663 01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:41,199 reason is because family there's nothing 2664 01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:42,880 more important to me on this entire 2665 01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,840 earth than family and that's what star 2666 01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:46,880 wars 2667 01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:51,520 nucleus of everything that has ever been 2668 01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:53,679 stars and everything every amount of 2669 01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:55,679 content that will ever be produced by 2670 01:49:57,590 --> 01:49:56,800 disney 2671 01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:57,600 um 2672 01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:00,000 or marvel if it's comic books about star 2673 01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:02,239 wars will always be centered around 2674 01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:03,760 family and how 2675 01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:07,520 uh there's the tragedies and the 2676 01:50:13,109 --> 01:50:10,159 um 2677 01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:13,119 connections that uh family weave 2678 01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:15,840 together and how powerful uh 2679 01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:19,040 familial bonds is if i used that word 2680 01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:20,800 correctly um 2681 01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:22,320 you did well done 2682 01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:23,760 but uh 2683 01:50:29,189 --> 01:50:26,320 yeah start that first and foremost and 2684 01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:29,199 then second star wars is so expansive 2685 01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:31,679 there's i can't think of another 2686 01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:32,639 um 2687 01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:34,880 i can't think of another 2688 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:39,119 series or saga or anything that has as 2689 01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:41,920 powerful following and and so much 2690 01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:44,239 material that i've already stated in the 2691 01:50:48,709 --> 01:50:46,080 show that i don't think i'll ever be 2692 01:50:51,590 --> 01:50:48,719 able to know every single thing 2693 01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:51,600 like it is so expensi it's it's a new 2694 01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:54,159 genre of film it's a new genre of film 2695 01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,280 it's crazy 2696 01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:56,960 movies and you have star wars movies now 2697 01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:58,560 that's how that's the world we're living 2698 01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:01,440 now pretty much it's just amazing to me 2699 01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:02,560 like 2700 01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:03,520 i 2701 01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:42,159 to learn about star wars 2702 01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:45,360 okay so i i just sent you guys an image 2703 01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:47,040 um i don't know if you can pull it up 2704 01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:48,960 right now but it's the 2705 01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:52,480 the imdb poster that is posted for the 2706 01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:53,760 last jedi 2707 01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,119 if you look at this i like it better 2708 01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,119 than the the ones they just released of 2709 01:52:02,390 --> 01:51:59,760 every of all the different characters 2710 01:52:04,709 --> 01:52:02,400 because this is the best character yeah 2711 01:52:06,070 --> 01:52:04,719 it is the best one because all the ones 2712 01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:06,080 with the different you had literally 2713 01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:07,760 like there's one with finn there's one 2714 01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:09,599 of red there's one of leia 2715 01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:12,000 there's one of the handle all that like 2716 01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,599 they're all in the red they're wearing a 2717 01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:15,599 red coat like basically their outfit is 2718 01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:16,719 red 2719 01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:18,639 i i didn't like how it looked man 2720 01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,440 clearly basically all i got from that is 2721 01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:23,119 something's gonna go down in the last 2722 01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,520 jedi something bad's gonna happen and 2723 01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:27,280 they're clearly conveying that i feel 2724 01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:28,639 like it's a little bit over the top 2725 01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:30,080 honestly 2726 01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:31,440 well it kind of reminded me of like a 2727 01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,159 netflix ad for daredevil season three 2728 01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:35,679 well this is touching on what we already 2729 01:52:41,109 --> 01:52:37,599 what we already discussed before 2730 01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:41,119 but um lu i mean uh mark hamilton 2731 01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:43,599 said a hamel hamilton not the ice skater 2732 01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:46,800 or camel um 2733 01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,800 they're both they're both amazing okay 2734 01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:49,679 anyway 2735 01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:51,119 mark campbell said when he first was 2736 01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:53,199 approached about this new trilogy 2737 01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:54,000 um 2738 01:52:57,910 --> 01:52:55,440 that the storyline that they're going 2739 01:52:59,510 --> 01:52:57,920 with he was completely against until he 2740 01:53:01,030 --> 01:52:59,520 sat down and talked to them about it and 2741 01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:01,040 they convinced him and then he said wow 2742 01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:02,239 this is really 2743 01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:05,760 a powerful and he was convinced to do it 2744 01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:07,920 and then i look at this 2745 01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:11,520 who wait but just look at this poster 2746 01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:12,480 and 2747 01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:16,320 tell me who looks the most angry 2748 01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,470 dude i so think it's kylo 2749 01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:24,719 i think i think luke looks so 2750 01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:31,830 both sides i think that's going to play 2751 01:53:34,149 --> 01:53:33,360 i think that that's going to play on the 2752 01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:34,159 day 2753 01:53:40,870 --> 01:53:36,960 when we go to the theaters and you know 2754 01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:40,880 mid-december i don't know i don't think 2755 01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:42,880 that that's anger i think that that 2756 01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:45,119 that's focus and intention do you think 2757 01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:45,840 so 2758 01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:46,639 okay 2759 01:53:51,669 --> 01:53:49,520 this is serious intent but no but now 2760 01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,679 he's a very passionate practicer and 2761 01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:53,520 teacher of his beliefs 2762 01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:54,800 right 2763 01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,199 it's not going to be like we know that 2764 01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:01,440 kylo ren's a bad guy we know that kylo 2765 01:54:05,990 --> 01:54:04,080 ren's not going to do something bad like 2766 01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,000 that that's not going to happen it's 2767 01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:08,000 going to be something more extreme than 2768 01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:09,760 that because they've teased it they've 2769 01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:11,840 teased it so much it's gonna 2770 01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:13,599 that they can't now go back on their 2771 01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:15,520 word and disney's been good about it 2772 01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:16,800 this has been good about keeping their 2773 01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,760 word 2774 01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:19,920 well also the symbolism here too i mean 2775 01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:21,520 maybe i'm just reading too much into it 2776 01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:24,159 but you have you have rey right in the 2777 01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:26,560 middle splitting these two in half as if 2778 01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:32,149 she might be 2779 01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,400 she very well may be i love that i think 2780 01:54:39,189 --> 01:54:36,800 that's a great way to put it down maybe 2781 01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:39,199 maybe luke has learned quite a bit in 2782 01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:41,679 his research and practice but maybe 2783 01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:43,599 he's going to teach her how to balance 2784 01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:46,159 the dark and the light not himself 2785 01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:47,679 hey hold on a second i just thought that 2786 01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:50,960 this kid just came to me is luke snoke 2787 01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:52,639 is luke's oh 2788 01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,159 god i don't know 2789 01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:56,320 oh how is is that going to happen is 2790 01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:58,480 that going to come out i don't know 2791 01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,239 hold on that might be the shocking 2792 01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:02,000 reveal i think i just came i think i 2793 01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:03,920 just broke broke it all i think i just 2794 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:05,920 killed the internet i think i just put 2795 01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:08,480 it out how would he look that way though 2796 01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:10,800 interesting let's listen listen 2797 01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:14,400 luke is the wizard of oz effect exactly 2798 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:16,840 the last jedi he's the last jedi he can 2799 01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,280 definitely stop the business but 2800 01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,360 i do want to say if that is correct and 2801 01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:23,920 luke turns out being snoke i do want to 2802 01:55:27,669 --> 01:55:25,599 to give credit to all of you because i 2803 01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:27,679 would not have come to that conclusion 2804 01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:29,920 if it happened thank you 2805 01:55:32,629 --> 01:55:31,520 for the evidence that you presented to 2806 01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:32,639 me today 2807 01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:34,880 in this court of law thank you 2808 01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,679 what i like to do the poster is 2809 01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:39,840 it's it's gone back to the original 2810 01:55:47,189 --> 01:55:43,280 image which was so evocative i mean no 2811 01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:47,199 movie poster was that cool and then 2812 01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:50,400 you know the the rebel alliance symbol 2813 01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:51,520 and 2814 01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:53,760 it's just it's a nice image to come back 2815 01:55:57,430 --> 01:55:55,840 to it does have a balance of dark and 2816 01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,440 light which was always 2817 01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:59,119 part of the 2818 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:00,880 metaphor of the show sort of you know 2819 01:56:06,229 --> 01:56:04,080 this whole ying yang through the mythos 2820 01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:06,239 yeah exactly of the dark and the light 2821 01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:08,560 and even if you see at the top 2822 01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:11,119 the the light from the lightsaber is red 2823 01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:12,800 on the bottom it's blue 2824 01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:15,119 there you go 2825 01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:17,199 probably right exactly yep 2826 01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:19,920 so it's not just one color it's it's 2827 01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:22,880 it's it's white light which is probably 2828 01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:25,199 a pure saver they probably went back to 2829 01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:26,480 i'm going to say keratin i know that's 2830 01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,679 not it to get new lightsaber stuff 2831 01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:31,920 right yes she's not just dividing 2832 01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:34,000 dividing them but in the balance but the 2833 01:56:37,589 --> 01:56:35,119 balance is in the color of her 2834 01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:37,599 lightsaber too 2835 01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:39,679 and inside the master 2836 01:56:43,510 --> 01:56:41,360 and also remember in the video she 2837 01:56:45,430 --> 01:56:43,520 throws the hood up so generally when the 2838 01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,440 jedi throws the hood up you know 2839 01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:48,080 something's gone down 2840 01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:48,960 oh 2841 01:56:52,870 --> 01:56:51,360 okay yeah yeah 2842 01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:52,880 towards the end towards the end of the 2843 01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:54,800 footage you see a shot of rey with the 2844 01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:56,480 hood up and that's the first one we've 2845 01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:58,159 seen with her with the hood up 2846 01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:00,239 something's gone down something's gone 2847 01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:05,109 it's like at work when you need to go 2848 01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:07,520 cry in the bathroom 2849 01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,470 when a jedi pulls their hood up it's the 2850 01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:18,960 equivalent of you and i going into the 2851 01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:21,040 bathroom to cry at work 2852 01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:22,400 just need a minute 2853 01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:24,400 all right so guys we have we have um 2854 01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:26,880 just uh a few minutes left of the show 2855 01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:28,719 um so if you guys want to get any major 2856 01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:36,550 iverson i resembled 2857 01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:38,080 well you already did your your chewy 2858 01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:38,960 grout 2859 01:57:42,629 --> 01:57:40,960 uh i definitely and i was the only one 2860 01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,639 who did it by the way so clearly it's 2861 01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:44,960 not just ryan johnson then he did so now 2862 01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:46,960 you but now you own that yup three of 2863 01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:48,639 the three of the four three of the four 2864 01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:50,840 did not present the 2865 01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:54,320 wookie verbalization if you will 2866 01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:57,360 hey mac yeah matt go ahead 2867 01:58:01,669 --> 01:57:59,599 uh two questions first question do you 2868 01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:01,679 think there's any way that you could get 2869 01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:05,599 a full star wars show at your studio 2870 01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,800 uh what do you mean well this is a 2871 01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:09,199 two-hour show and we're still recording 2872 01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:10,960 so i'm not sure 2873 01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:11,840 uh 2874 01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:14,719 we are today it is what i mean yeah but 2875 01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:17,599 i mean this is i forgot the exact name 2876 01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:19,840 of the show but it's like paranormal 2877 01:58:24,550 --> 01:58:22,320 like it covers everything like it's not 2878 01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:24,560 specifically start like it's like a 2879 01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:26,639 science fiction like paranormal show 2880 01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:28,560 like it covers everything i'm sure i'm 2881 01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,719 not on every week obviously but i'm sure 2882 01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:32,239 every week you have a different topic 2883 01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:37,430 like collider has jedi council like 2884 01:58:42,950 --> 01:58:41,199 where they only talk about star wars 2885 01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:42,960 we make like a series out of it at some 2886 01:58:49,270 --> 01:58:45,760 point dude well i mean we're definitely 2887 01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:49,280 that sounds like something 2888 01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,960 yeah absolutely that that's a really 2889 01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:53,040 great idea i mean we obviously like i 2890 01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:55,360 said before we're visiting star wars 2891 01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,360 we'll be revisiting star wars up until 2892 01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,440 and through in the next couple of movies 2893 01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:01,679 um intermittently um but as far as like 2894 01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:02,960 a regular 2895 01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:04,560 program i'm not sure we'll have to let's 2896 01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:07,119 talk about that um later after the show 2897 01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:08,080 um 2898 01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:10,400 so okay so my my 2899 01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:12,880 i want to ask you guys 2900 01:59:20,229 --> 01:59:19,109 seeing prince princess leia because i 2901 01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:20,239 know for me 2902 01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:22,400 i've seen carrie fisher 2903 01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:23,520 you know it's going to be rough i don't 2904 01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:24,880 even no matter what the storyline's 2905 01:59:28,709 --> 01:59:26,639 going to be um 2906 01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:28,719 there's there's no doubt that she's had 2907 01:59:32,709 --> 01:59:31,440 an impact on all of us um 2908 01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:32,719 so camille you touched on that a little 2909 01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:34,320 bit before but you know do you think 2910 01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,360 you'll be able to make it through this 2911 01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:37,280 movie without kind of losing it and just 2912 01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:38,639 and focusing on the story make it 2913 01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,400 through the last one 2914 01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:42,239 i like when i saw 2915 01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:45,119 um spoiler han i just was like 2916 01:59:50,070 --> 01:59:47,520 it was beautiful you left me this is my 2917 01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:50,080 science fiction fabulous 2918 01:59:54,629 --> 01:59:52,320 like it was ugly and people were looking 2919 01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:54,639 i didn't care because i was in brooklyn 2920 01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:55,920 but anyway 2921 02:00:04,310 --> 02:00:01,990 not just the princess leia thing i mean 2922 02:00:06,390 --> 02:00:04,320 she was she was a performer who was the 2923 02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:06,400 daughter of a performer 2924 02:00:11,270 --> 02:00:09,520 who my family loved and her father was 2925 02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:11,280 somebody that my grandmother bought a 2926 02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:12,960 record of and 2927 02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,040 you know i knew about carrie fisher 2928 02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:17,119 before she was in star wars and to see 2929 02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:19,119 her turn around and take that step into 2930 02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:21,520 having her own career was exciting 2931 02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:23,440 but then when she had a problem with 2932 02:00:28,390 --> 02:00:26,159 drugs as a lot of people did in the 80s 2933 02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:28,400 a lot of people had really bad drug 2934 02:00:31,750 --> 02:00:29,520 problems 2935 02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:31,760 she was one of the only people who said 2936 02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:34,159 listen dudes this sucks i got lots of 2937 02:00:37,109 --> 02:00:35,599 mental illness i'm going to tell you 2938 02:00:45,669 --> 02:00:37,119 about it here's a book it's going to 2939 02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,270 was like such a seminal point of pop 2940 02:00:54,390 --> 02:00:52,080 culture and the thing 2941 02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:54,400 i loved about her the most was that she 2942 02:00:59,030 --> 02:00:56,400 was a realist about her struggles with 2943 02:01:01,430 --> 02:00:59,040 depression and mental illness and 2944 02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:01,440 electroshock therapy she was a realist 2945 02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:03,040 in a way that you know people who have 2946 02:01:07,350 --> 02:01:05,440 to deal with mental illness specifically 2947 02:01:08,709 --> 02:01:07,360 suicidal symptoms you have to deal with 2948 02:01:10,229 --> 02:01:08,719 the fact that 2949 02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:10,239 every moment that you're awake is a 2950 02:01:14,310 --> 02:01:12,239 precious gift and you have to fight to 2951 02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:14,320 stay alive 2952 02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:16,080 yeah i will say that 2953 02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:19,280 the person behind the entertainer was 2954 02:01:22,709 --> 02:01:20,639 yeah yeah the person behind the 2955 02:01:24,070 --> 02:01:22,719 entertainer was a humanitarian 2956 02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:24,080 and she